I agree because I saw the extended scene they play on Talking Dead.Originally Posted by Return_of_Phos
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On Talking Dead last night, Michael Rooker who plays Merle said he wasn't sacrificing himself. He said the character wanted to take out as many men of the governor's men as possible and then return to the prison. Unfortunately for him, it didn't work out that way.
that season finale would anger me and probably alot of people...im not sure if you are just referring to the teaser scene but i think a big battle will have to ensue...personally im thinking ambush...
theres a teaser scene online too, not really telling though.
I am going to say Ambush. Abandon the prison, get them trapped inside and then ambush them.
The title of the episode is Welcome to the Tombs, so they could either lure them inside and lock them there as well.
They got explosives from Morgan, which I'd guess they could drop the prison and turn it into a massive tomb. Would not kill the attacking army but would trap them with no chance of escape. The upside would be once they cleared the walkers from the prison, no more would enter. The explosion of the tower I would think is a plan by the Governor to take the high ground away. I'd imagine every tower at the prison will drop before they start the assault. The towers would give you high ground advantage for sniper fire on the attacking group. Natural to take out the towers and take away the advantage, plus if two towers are occupied, you just dropped a significant portion of Rick's group.
Merle should have kept gathering walkers and drove them straight to Woodbury. The town would have been over-run when the Governor returned and he would have been down to a handful of people and likely unable to seek out Rick's group and or unable to muster enough "troops" to go out again.
My guess is they try to lure the Woodbury folks into the prison to kill them with walkers and booby traps, without much of a direct fight. They can at least reduce their numbers and ammo. It probably won't work as well as planned, of course.
I wouldn't be surprised if Rick's group are heading to Woodbury while the Governor's group heads to the prison. I don't think they would kill all of the Woodbury residents, Rick's group knows the residents of Woodbury don't know what the Governor had done. It would be a great plan, take over Woodbury while they are spread thin, then ambush the Governor's group as they drive to the gate. This would also allow for them to get Andrea or wrap up that storyline.
Or, Rick's group just leaves it all behind and heads toward the Georgia coast, which is presumably a few hours down I75 and I16 from where they are. I16 is very desolate most of the way down, so it wouldn't necessarily be a bad trip. I wonder if the cars will all look like Mad Max soon, at least with big push bars on the front and better protection for the windows (although there are a ton of car sponsors for the show, who wouldn't want their cars too messed up). I'd head toward the coast for the winter, steal a boat, get a bunch of supplies, and find a nice island in the Bahamas or off the coast of Georgia. Oh, and I'd pick up Morgan, too, although I don't think that will happen as the actor seems to be difficult to find. His traps entering his "town" would be useful anywhere.
Thats a good plan in theory. There are some problems though. Boats have been left unattended for around a year, they may not be in "pristine" condition to say the least. Making it to the island would present problems: supplies, navigation, would the boats hold up, etc. Can everyone in the group swim if someone where to fall out of the boat? If anyone dies on the island there is obviously potential for someone to get bit.
At this point of course there is no great solution. Its not a bad idea but any type of travel in TWD seems to present problems.
jeffztt (04-05-2013)
Oh, I agree that there are risks, but there are with everything they do or don't do. They need to figure out how to find a place that has a good amount of land and protection so they can start really rebuilding. That, though, wouldn't do until the end of the series, because the show is watching them trying to survive against all odds and how humans react in that situation...not about how they would rebuild society.
The coastal areas provide more warmth in the Winter but certainly aren't warm here. The swamps in South Georgia would be an interesting place to visit with walkers getting stuck, eaten by alligators, etc. That is all assuming they keep filming exclusively in GA. I can't imagine them heading into the mountains for Winter, while not as cold as a lot of areas, good shelter would be a necessity. Mountainous terrain could be a benefit, though.
Either way, I'm looking forward to the season finale and not looking forward to months without any new episodes.
Your idea is a good one it's just not simple to carry out. But there aren't any better alternatives.
jeffztt (04-05-2013)
Wow, totally surprised
yeah, cant imagine how season 4 will be...
I can't believe it ended like that. Andrea is such a big part in comics. I did not see that one coming, I was telling people no way that would happen to her. But I am enjoying the TV show. Season 1 & 2 where pretty true to the comics, but season 3 went in a total different direction.
I wonder how much is put in with an actor/actress not wanting to do another season...
with andrea playing both sides it was hard to keep her likeable...perhaps this will open the doors for more characters that get killed in the comics to grow more in the show...
I'm really excited the Governor is going to be around for Season 4. He's one of my favorite villains.
They didn't really resolve anything so yeah I agree with you.
maybe theyre trying to be like game of thrones....heh
On Talking Dead they had Daryl on there (Yeah Norman or whatever) and he said Daryl was cold and detached and then came around but he sees him becoming cold again. I took that as almost a spoiler that Carol is going to bite the dust soon.
Time to speculate on Season 4.
I say the winter ends up being hard on everyone in the Prison. I would say there is a few deaths/people leaving the group. By the time spring comes around they will have to leave the prison as they will be low on supplies from there, not sure where they would go...
The issue I have with this is how the heck are they going to fit him into next season. It's not like he has an "army" anymore. It's just Martinez and the other lackey, and Woodbury is now abandoned.
It just seems that the outgoing Producer/Head Writer left the guy who is replacing him with a tough task.
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The Governor might just go postal. if he can take out that many people by himself, he can have his 2 lackies take out guards and probably plow through a bit of the Team Prison before he died. I was more shocked with Carl. He has lost it. they need to do something to redeem themselves. it would be cuckoo bananas if Carl and The Governor joined up (Carl hates what his dad is doing, and tossed the badge back, and the governor needs a loose cannon who he can mold since he lost his daughter) -because i see Shane's attitude emerging in Carl's actions- or Carl will try to take down his father. either way, they need something rocking like that, or else the season will sink faster than the Titanic.
I think that now Rick has the burden of Lori's death and her "ghost" seemingly out of his subconscious, hopefully it will give him time to spend with Carl and straighten him out, while allowing Tyreese to be the leader. That coupled with a potential real community feel may allow Carl to switch out of Soldier mode and back to being a kid for a period of time until things get crazy again. I really can't see him becoming an antagonist at any point in the show.
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im sure they can make something up, he can train an army again...or maybe bring back that crew that attacked rick in the bar from season 2, they didnt exactly say where they came from.
but theyll have to fill out a whole season...unless its going to be back and forth attacks next season...
I'd guess the first few episodes next season might have some Governor story line while introducing the broader story for the season, and within a few episodes he'll probably attack the prison on his own or with a very small group, which will be a good battle but ultimately futile for him. It fits his personality to do so. He might try to re-establish another town. Oddly, where Morgan is would be a good candidate for establishing a town.
I don't think Carl is crazy or anything like that. He is being quite rational...they have let people live instead of killing them, and it has caused their friends to die. Rick finally got beyond that thinking in the last few episodes, so he needs to help Carl do the same. It is going to take a village to get things more "normal."
We actually watched The Talking Dead after the finale. One comment about the new people at the prison is how do you sleep with all of them there? if someone dies in their sleep and turns into a walker, you have a big mess. Everyone would need to sleep in their own closed cell that a walker couldn't get open. I'd create other alarms as well.
Next season, if they stay in the prison I'd like to see them clear out the yard and plant some crops. They have enough people to tend to it now. I'd also like to see them secure the prison better. I hope they may a run to Atlanta at some point, or another city. It would be interesting to see how the city is progressing. Will walkers eventually die off if they don't have anything to eat? How long does it take? There are still a ton of questions to answer in addition to some good action to be had.
I was gonna make that point when I commented about your idea of getting to the coast and then an island. Herschel is old and I thought he might be a prime candidate for this but I deleted that section of my reply before I posted it.
jeffztt (04-05-2013)
So sad the season ended
But can't wait for next season!
At least new season of Game of Thrones
started
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