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Stingrayleo
12-08-2009, 09:33 AM
Thanks Sledge for the news. What do you all think? At $495 a pop, ouch... Anyone have detailed pics of the individual designs? Love the tool box cases though. :thumbsup:

ViNYLhEAD!
12-08-2009, 10:12 AM
@ $495 each im really wondering whether i should actually be collecting VM's anymore. Ive been trying to get alot of Park 1's and urban 1's now so i could catch up.. but with releases like these, and the closeness of all the other releases, Disney is making it really hard to be a completist..

cbisson
12-08-2009, 10:17 AM
i was going to make a trip up there to buy one of these but 495 plus tax!!!!! nevermind that i would rather have a shopping spree in disneyland!!!!

MaxGoof
12-08-2009, 10:31 AM
@ $495 each im really wondering whether i should actually be collecting VM's anymore. Ive been trying to get alot of Park 1's and urban 1's now so i could catch up.. but with releases like these, and the closeness of all the other releases, Disney is making it really hard to be a completist..

I don't know if you could consider any of the one-of-a-kind figures essential to a "complete" collection. Since there are 24 different, one-of-a-kind figures in this set, in order for you to have a "complete" collection you'd need to own all 24 yourself and thus no one else would have any. And you'd be out $12,000. :bonk:

I think the one-of-a-kind pieces are a nice idea, but I would never consider them necessary for completism. It just isn't logical. But that's just me.

ViNYLhEAD!
12-08-2009, 04:11 PM
by completist, i didnt mean having all 24 of these, but just one wouldve been fine for me.. because $12,000 could be spent better elsewhere.. just to know that there is a series out there that i could not complete is a little aggravating

BigAl_PT
12-08-2009, 04:19 PM
by completist, i didnt mean having all 24 of these, but just one wouldve been fine for me.. because $12,000 could be spent better elsewhere.. just to know that there is a series out there that i could not complete is a little aggravating
I would suggest not being a completist. I can't imagine that anyone truly likes every single design that has or will come out. People's tastes just differ too much for that to happen. I reserved myself a long time ago to the fact that I'll probably try to get most of the Park figures and then other, select figures that I like. One, it takes the strain of my wallet and two, more importantly, I don't stress out about HAVING to have every single figure. I just enjoy the ones I do have already.

whenyouimagine
12-09-2009, 07:48 AM
I like these, but I don't love them. I do have to agree, it is getting harder and harder to think about being a completist. In such a new collector hobby, the point of "giving up" on having it all came unusually fast.

JB

alicetwasbrillig
12-09-2009, 03:57 PM
Considering that these are all painted by Noah $495 is pretty typical in the world of designer vinyl. Amanda Visell's custom labbits were sold for $600. They had extra sculpting and stuff but labbits are pretty small toys.

dizneyfan23
12-10-2009, 09:50 PM
I don't really think that any vinyl is worth $500 (unless it's made out of solid 24K gold):thumbsup:

DesertGnome
12-10-2009, 11:18 PM
I would love to get my hands on one of these but $500 is a little much

Shaley
12-10-2009, 11:25 PM
I agree I think it's a neat idea, but not at all worth $500 each.

Scarletwebslingr
12-10-2009, 11:27 PM
I think charging that much is just arrogant.

Shaley
12-10-2009, 11:33 PM
Did Noah set the prices or did Disney?

Scarletwebslingr
12-10-2009, 11:40 PM
Did Noah set the prices or did Disney?

I'm sure it was a collaboration of both.

Shaley
12-11-2009, 12:33 AM
It is kinda arrogant, but it's probably because they sell the LE 1's for $600 they figure people will buy these for $500.

Layensid71
12-11-2009, 11:24 AM
i am not a fan of his work, i didnt even buy the expo vinyl.

BigAl_PT
12-11-2009, 11:47 AM
Is it really arrogance? He's an established artist and Disney is an extremely large corporation that I'm sure has plenty of experience, research and data to back up the price it's charging. If the market is willing to pay that price, does it mean they're arrogant? Maybe it's just savy business practice. After all, the guy is an artist for a living. I've seen things much worse than this priced much higher.

giangquyhnmai
12-11-2009, 02:08 PM
I'm not interrested. It's only to make money ! :-(

Denham11
12-11-2009, 02:40 PM
I'm not interrested. It's only to make money ! :-(

Did Disney ever act like it was a non-profit organization?

I'm a Disney shareholder -- I want them to make money!

Like Big Al says, they charge what the market will bear. They know what they're doing.

Shaley
12-11-2009, 05:08 PM
Is it really arrogance? He's an established artist and Disney is an extremely large corporation that I'm sure has plenty of experience, research and data to back up the price it's charging. If the market is willing to pay that price, does it mean they're arrogant? Maybe it's just savy business practice. After all, the guy is an artist for a living. I've seen things much worse than this priced much higher.

I guess that's true. Maybe i'm just bitter because even if I wanted to I couldn't get one. :lol:

Scarletwebslingr
12-11-2009, 06:33 PM
Is it really arrogance? He's an established artist and Disney is an extremely large corporation that I'm sure has plenty of experience, research and data to back up the price it's charging. If the market is willing to pay that price, does it mean they're arrogant? Maybe it's just savy business practice. After all, the guy is an artist for a living. I've seen things much worse than this priced much higher.

Established artists or not, he's wanting 500 dollars for a 3" toy. Slapping that kind of price tag price tag on a little black vinyl with symmetrical zig-zags?

It's downright shameful what he's trying to get away with.

Denham11
12-11-2009, 06:37 PM
Established artists or not, he's wanting 500 dollars for a 3" toy. Slapping that kind of price tag price tag on a little black vinyl with symmetrical zig-zags?

It's downright shameful what he's trying to get away with.

Correction: NINE-inch toys!

Scarletwebslingr
12-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Correction: NINE-inch toys!

Okay. 9" toys. Really?

Mouseman74
12-11-2009, 11:25 PM
Okay. 9" toys. Really?

Now, now. Vinylmation is not a toy. It's a collectible. Says so on the box. :idea:

mickeyfan1999
12-11-2009, 11:50 PM
We all pay $74.95 for the sets LE to 400 to 500, we pay $39.95 for the LE to 500, 600 and 750 like Tiki one. Thats the reason the more LE are price on the $500.00 to $600.00.
They do not have any problems selling any LE vinyls.

Mouseman74
12-12-2009, 12:20 AM
We all pay $74.95 for the sets LE to 400 to 500, we pay $39.95 for the LE to 500, 600 and 750 like Tiki one. Thats the reason the more LE are price on the $500.00 to $600.00.
They do not have any problems selling any LE vinyls.

It really comes down to the fact that it is considered art. The LE 1 of 1's are never to be reproduced in mass or individually ever again. They have unique applications to them and are hand signed by the Artist. Not to mention the hand painting.

And how is it any different that if the vinyls are considered art, then they fall into the same category as paintings and sculptures that are made, why would it be wrong for them to charge a higher price?? I really don't view vinylmations as toys in any way. What attracted me to vinylmation and got me hooked was the artistic takes and how they use the Mickey form as a canvas and how creative they have gotten with it.

Shaley
12-12-2009, 12:58 AM
I guess if people will buy them at that price, why wouldn't they charge it?

Scarletwebslingr
12-12-2009, 01:55 PM
Now, now. Vinylmation is not a toy. It's a collectible. Says so on the box. :idea:

:P Is there a difference? Most toys are collectibles sooner or later.


We all pay $74.95 for the sets LE to 400 to 500, we pay $39.95 for the LE to 500, 600 and 750 like Tiki one. Thats the reason the more LE are price on the $500.00 to $600.00.
They do not have any problems selling any LE vinyls.

No, not all of us do.

I get that they're limited but an artist using his name to basically rob his fans is just crude. And it's not a matter of whether or not people are willing to buy the product (because we all know they are) but exploiting a fan's love and obsession for your product just for profit rips the soul right out of the art itself. Sorry, Noah. You're selfish and these tramp-stamp looking designs, hand painted or not, just don't cut it.

HauntedCollector
12-12-2009, 03:43 PM
Is this Disneyland California or Florida?

Also is this inside the park or outside the park?

Mouseman74
12-13-2009, 01:01 AM
Is this Disneyland California or Florida?

Also is this inside the park or outside the park?

It's the new store, D Street that opens December 15th in Downtown Disney at the Disneyland Resort.

Stingrayleo
12-13-2009, 06:04 AM
Well, after all this discussion I really seriously doubt I would buy one. It's just way too expensive. And you can't even try to trade it, because what would you trade it for, besides perhaps an entire Park1 series??? Kind of takes the fun out of the hobby. I am curious how slow or fast these will sell. Do the LE1s typically sell out at the artist signings? I've never been to a signing, except ironically Noah's at D23.

JEP
12-13-2009, 06:14 AM
The LE 1's at the last artist party sold pretty fast. Both was bought by members of this forum. :)

HauntedCollector
12-13-2009, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the info, Im 90% sure I will be there. So look out for my 9" Ezra and 3" Mech Mickey, I will be the guy holding them.

VinylGina
12-13-2009, 08:54 PM
Honestly, if it wasnt for Metal Mickey I would have NO idea who Noah was. So, sorry but I couldn't justify $495 plus tax for a hand painted stripey doll. Yes, Vinyl collectibles are art, but they are in fact toys. Grown up, expensive toys. The great thing about VMs, though, is that they are produced in a way that makes them much more affordable than other Vinyl art. So, as I can justify that VMs are a fun and beautiful way to show off affordable art, I can't say that a nearly $500 version painted by someone I've never heard of, in a very lackluster design is justified.
That is just my take, I'm sure Noah fans will be much more thrilled, and if you've got the extra cash this time of year, by all means go for it! And take lots of pictures so we can all see!!

bran9bran
12-13-2009, 09:17 PM
Honestly, if it wasnt for Metal Mickey I would have NO idea who Noah was. So, sorry but I couldn't justify $495 plus tax for a hand painted stripey doll. Yes, Vinyl collectibles are art, but they are in fact toys. Grown up, expensive toys. The great thing about VMs, though, is that they are produced in a way that makes them much more affordable than other Vinyl art. So, as I can justify that VMs are a fun and beautiful way to show off affordable art, I can't say that a nearly $500 version painted by someone I've never heard of, in a very lackluster design is justified.
That is just my take, I'm sure Noah fans will be much more thrilled, and if you've got the extra cash this time of year, by all means go for it! And take lots of pictures so we can all see!!

i agree 100%

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i mean really??? $500.00 for a 9in. custom?? That is just insane i mean i am a kid and i love these vinyls but i am not paying $500.00 for a 9in. Vinyl dipped in black paint and has cool lines? I mean those are probaly decals. I could pay $50.00 on a 9" blank vinyl, black spray paint, a ultra fine brush, and neon colors. Although i wount get the lunch box (which i like alot) but who cares its like paying $500.00 that should be worth maybe $100. So what if a artist painted it. He probaly enjoyed it. But if your going to tell me that i should pay $500.00 for a vinyl, then just go home. I dont care if there are one-of-a-kind, Metal mickey and shag was LE to and so what if they had 150 and there is only 24 of these. I have 1 word for where these are going to end up...Ebay

Racer X
12-13-2009, 09:52 PM
:P Is there a difference? Most toys are collectibles sooner or later.



No, not all of us do.

I get that they're limited but an artist using his name to basically rob his fans is just crude. And it's not a matter of whether or not people are willing to buy the product (because we all know they are) but exploiting a fan's love and obsession for your product just for profit rips the soul right out of the art itself. Sorry, Noah. You're selfish and these tramp-stamp looking designs, hand painted or not, just don't cut it.

Most limited Edition "collectible" toys aren't collectible. This is not the first "toy" I have collected. Many of the LE Collectibles jump in price early, but as time goes buy and nobody can keep up with all that is coming out and the people who bought 10 because they were going to be collectible and soar in value need money and start selling, then the prices crater. Then you can often get them for lower than initial retail. Some of the really limited pieces hold their value, but you need a very strong collector based maybe a 1000 times the size of the LE.

Professional artist have to make a living. Creating art takes time. It is not just the time to actually paint the item, There is time to get the inspiration, time to lay it out, time to do finish work, time for marketing. The artist are not screwing people, they are filling a demand from their fans. Have you ever bought an original painting from a known established artist? I participated on auction for some prints, the original G. Harvey's went for many thousands. I heard one starting bidding at $65,000. He is not someone that did 40 paintings and died. As far as I can tell he has painted hundreds of works. His 4500 print runs go the hundreds retail.

As far as calling these "tramp stamp" designs, welll......... either you have not paid close attention to the NOAH designs, or you haven't paid close enough attention to actual "tramp stamps". Perhaps you were watching something else instead of the tattoo art?:shrug: They are not the same style. The NOAH work is a new take on old school pinstriping of the 50's.

Maybe there are some tattoo fans here that can verify.

To each his own.:clap:

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i agree 100%

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i mean really??? $500.00 for a 9in. custom?? That is just insane i mean i am a kid and i love these vinyls but i am not paying $500.00 for a 9in. Vinyl dipped in black paint and has cool lines? I mean those are probaly decals. I could pay $50.00 on a 9" blank vinyl, black spray paint, a ultra fine brush, and neon colors. Although i wount get the lunch box (which i like alot) but who cares its like paying $500.00 that should be worth maybe $100. So what if a artist painted it. He probaly enjoyed it. But if your going to tell me that i should pay $500.00 for a vinyl, then just go home. I dont care if there are one-of-a-kind, Metal mickey and shag was LE to and so what if they had 150 and there is only 24 of these. I have 1 word for where these are going to end up...Ebay

There are not 24 of these. They are not customs. They are a series of 24 1 of 1 original Disney commissioned works of art.


No one here telling you should pay $495. In fact, I am telling you not to buy one. They are not meant for you. You are not their target market for these pieces.

These pieces may end up on Ebay. In fact, I hope so. Not everyone who wants one will be able to fly to California to get one. I suspect they will go just like the other 1 of 1 pieces went on Ebay. They went for not much different than they originally sold for. Some a little more some a little less.

However, once they have run their course on Ebay they will be in the hands of collectors... either NOAH collectors or Vinylmation collectors, or maybe collecors of original Disney commissioned works.

I really don't understand the animous for the works and prices. I suppose understand the dislike of the price by those that would really like one for the art that it is, but just can't fit the price in their budget. I have sympathy for them, but is happens all the time. I would like a few original Disney production animation cels..... just couldn't verify their authenticity or fit them into my budget, when they have come up. I am not upset about it. If I had made different choices in my life, I would own those cels now.:thumbsup:

Scarletwebslingr
12-13-2009, 10:12 PM
Most limited Edition "collectible" toys aren't collectible. This is not the first "toy" I have collected. Many of the LE Collectibles jump in price early, but as time goes buy and nobody can keep up with all that is coming out and the people who bought 10 because they were going to be collectible and soar in value need money and start selling, then the prices crater. Then you can often get them for lower than initial retail. Some of the really limited pieces hold their value, but you need a very strong collector based maybe a 1000 times the size of the LE.

Professional artist have to make a living. Creating art takes time. It is not just the time to actually paint the item, There is time to get the inspiration, time to lay it out, time to do finish work, time for marketing. The artist are not screwing people, they are filling a demand from their fans. Have you ever bought an original painting from a known established artist? I participated on auction for some prints, the original G. Harvey's went for many thousands. I heard one starting bidding at $65,000. He is not someone that did 40 paintings and died. As far as I can tell he has painted hundreds of works. His 4500 print runs go the hundreds retail.

As far as calling these "tramp stamp" designs, welll......... either you have not paid close attention to the NOAH designs, or you haven't paid close enough attention to actual "tramp stamps". Perhaps you were watching something else instead of the tattoo art?:shrug: They are not the same style. The NOAH work is a new take on old school pinstriping of the 50's.

Maybe there are some tattoo fans here that can verify.

To each his own.:clap:[COLOR="Silver"]



Maybe you just have remarkably better eyesight than I do, but when comparing these designs, the two images look remarkably similar. Only real difference I see is that the tramp-stamp seems a little more thoughtful :shrug:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/Spikethestampede/D-StreetNoah.jpghttp://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/Spikethestampede/lower-back-tattoos.jpg

And sorry but 'new take on 50's pinstripes?' I don't buy it. "Cheap symmetric designs in sheeps clothing" is more like it. I get that he's an artist. I get that artists struggle. But these generic designs with such a hefty pricetag seems more like an experiment to see just how far they can stretch his name and still make cash in. Vinyls are a 10 dollar canvas. If you took a normal 10 dollar canvas from Walmart and slapped these same designs on it you'd see just how uninspired and lousy these designs really are. It's your money, man, and how you manage it is your own business, but I just think the whole thing is a sham.

Mouseman74
12-14-2009, 12:17 AM
Ok, now I think I have to finally say we need to chill here. One thing we have always asked of everyone is to be mindful of what is said about the artists and their designs as they do tend to look at the boards and see what everyone is talking about. While I am unsure if Noah would be one to read the posts, we still need to keep this in mind.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on whether they like or dislike the different art styles and whether the prices are reasonable or not, we need to be just a bit more tactful in how we present ourselves and our opinions. Also, please everyone keep in mind we have some younger fans on the forum. We need to be mindful of what we post on here as they view it as well.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program....

VinylGina
12-15-2009, 01:17 PM
You know, I hear what Racer X is saying. If I was a dude and I was into old school pinstriped cars, then maybe, JUST MAYBE, I MIGHT be interested in these. The flat black with the vibrant hand pinstriping is VERY authentic to the culture. I have no doubt about this. But I wonder if Disney is on the right page with these. Here's a video that explains pinstriping, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfpg6Fptvw4) note that the guy does a full size design in about 7 minutes. Even for a moderately good pinstriper it still would not take too long to do these, so a lot of us don't see a $500 design. Secondly, does it appeal to its target? I don't know a lot of Disney fans that sideline as Custom car fans. AND let's say you find that person who loves Disney, Vinyl Art, and Pinstripeing/ Custom Cars. Do you think they are gonna throw down $500 a pop for one of these? I really doubt 24 people are gonna absolutely love these and be willing to actually buy them.

As for why I actually care, it's a gateway, a slippery slope. If Disney sees Vinyl collectibles can sell for even $500, then the next Special figure will cost $500 or more. I don't want to encourage them to keep raising prices. I like these because I can afford them (barely), I don't want to mess with that.

Racer X
12-16-2009, 12:34 AM
I understand and appreciate the slippery pricing slope perspective. I would prefer if they were like $100. So far only the 1 0f 1 Vinylmations have been priced in this range. I understand that a 1 of 1 5 foot piece went for several thousand.

Look at it from Disney's perspective. The 150 LE SHAG Haunted Mansion is going for 300-400 in the secondary market. Now, that is not every piece, and certainly all 150 would not have sold at that price. So they can't go that far, put they want to get more, and make sure that Vinylmations are collectibles, especially the 9" pieces. Doing 1 of 1 piece makes sure they are dragged toward being "art".

By comparison they are cheap compared to almost any other Disney original art work. I priced and original SHAG painting at MK on Monday. The asking price was a mere $16,000. Granted it is a much more complex piece.

I just went to see what an early Andy Warhol (I am not suggesting an equivalency here, but who knows where he will end) is going for. The simplest 2 color piece on what looked like manila paper was priced at ~$4,700. It could not have taken him more than a few minutes. Heck, a line are of a set of keys was priced at $40,000. A line art nude, a simple one was priced at $156,000. The price of art is not simply about the time it takes. Clearly the price of art is not about reason, it is about passion. If it were about reason, it would have little value.

I don't see Disney raising the prices on their "regular" additions. They are having trouble selling some of them now at a pace that will keep their "turns" high enough and the pieces "collectible". If they sit on the shelves too long, the perceived value will drop.

I think they will be hard pressed to find 24 "end buyers" of the pieces on the first day. I don't think they expect to. If anything I think they hope to have some on display for a while. They are kind of a draw. The SHAG original I saw must have been on display since August as it was a Haunted Mansion 40th Anniversary work, I think.

The 24 could be bought up on the first day by resellers, and end up on ebay that night. That will be sad, but a fact of life.

It is an interesting experiment. On one hand, I hope it is not totally successful so they lower the price point. On the other, I like the 1 of 1 s and hope they continue.

ElCheOsito
12-16-2009, 03:18 AM
yeah i kinda got addicted but have reserved myself theyre so many series coming out and i dont think all the ones that are out now are cool anyways some of them are just really ugly lol..,,

Denham11
12-16-2009, 10:16 AM
new photos of the kustoms ....

http://eventservices.disney.go.com/files/vinylblog.html

..... now I want one!

Scarletwebslingr
12-16-2009, 10:46 AM
I understand and appreciate the slippery pricing slope perspective. I would prefer if they were like $100. So far only the 1 0f 1 Vinylmations have been priced in this range. I understand that a 1 of 1 5 foot piece went for several thousand.

By comparison they are cheap compared to almost any other Disney original art work. I priced and original SHAG painting at MK on Monday. The asking price was a mere $16,000. Granted it is a much more complex piece.

I just went to see what an early Andy Warhol (I am not suggesting an equivalency here, but who knows where he will end) is going for. The simplest 2 color piece on what looked like manila paper was priced at ~$4,700. It could not have taken him more than a few minutes. Heck, a line are of a set of keys was priced at $40,000. A line art nude, a simple one was priced at $156,000. The price of art is not simply about the time it takes. Clearly the price of art is not about reason, it is about passion. If it were about reason, it would have little value.

I don't see Disney raising the prices on their "regular" additions. They are having trouble selling some of them now at a pace that will keep their "turns" high enough and the pieces "collectible". If they sit on the shelves too long, the perceived value will drop.

I think they will be hard pressed to find 24 "end buyers" of the pieces on the first day. I don't think they expect to. If anything I think they hope to have some on display for a while. They are kind of a draw. The SHAG original I saw must have been on display since August as it was a Haunted Mansion 40th Anniversary work, I think.
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I understand what you're saying about the passion behind art being largely incorporated in the pricetag and I'm all for something like five-foot Vinyl (though I don't believe it was made of actual vinyl) going for a couple thousand. That piece demonstrated real undeniable talent, far beyond a few ziggyzags. Beyond the talent itself the five foot painting was a public spectacle, being painted live at a Disney convention. There's a big difference here between the five-footer and these nine-inchers in my view. I see the passion and talent in one so there's no question whether or not the artist is worthy or capable, but it just doesn't seem present with the Kustoms. I guess what I'm saying is that I am irked when great artists produce products below their own talents and still sell high, or, pushing layman's terms further, producing what the general undertrained artists could easily reproduce (like these or Gold Chaser).

As far as raising the prices on vinyls, they kind of have already. Not the basic blind-boxed ones, but the CM Vinyl was the first with a tin, with the tin added nothing to the price. Now they've upped the price of tinned vinyls by almost three dollars. That's understandable because it is made of a more expensive material and has artwork displayed on it as well. What I'm on the fence about is that the Wall*E and Eve set is priced five dollars higher than it would be to purchase two regular vinyls (it's priced as if you were buying two tinned vinyls instead) but the case they come in is just cardboard. I was kind of disappointed because you can't just take them in and out of the display without potentially damaging the case. :shrug: I'm going to buy the set anyway but I would have liked a sturdier box for them.

masonduo
12-16-2009, 06:42 PM
boy oh boy it's getting a bit hostile in here :fight:.
Can't we all be friends.:cheers:

Well back to the topic, I do like the overall look of the Kustom Kulture Vinyls and after seeing the new pictures. They look very nice and they have a very clean design to them imo. They aren't busy like other customs I have seen, but the overall price point pushes me away from these kustoms. If the price was around $150 to $250 i would think about buying one. But the price is $500 and I will not be buying one.

WDWTigger72
12-17-2009, 02:52 PM
Well, Too much debating going on regarding the design and cost...For me, regardless of the cost, I just don't like the design of these one of a kind vinylmations. When the 9" Metal Mickey was released I was sort of like its an ok design compared to many other vinyls I have seen outside of Vinylmation, and when I saw the 5 foot sorcerers apprentice I absolutely loved that design. The 5 foot sorcerer may have set my expectations for future vinylmation designs way too high for NOAH. Before these two where released I started looking into some of his other custom paintings and designs on his web site and was really impressed, so I think looking over some of these paintings also set my expectations really high for NOAH. If you haven't checked out his site, look around, and you probably would understand why I said it set my expectations really high. Some of the other Disney artists also create some great designs on bigger media, so sometimes when I see the Vinylmations by certain artists I just expect more. I am sure there are many reasons why the Vinylmations are not so detailed (i.e. Media Size, Factory Limitations, etc). So for me, Whether the cost was high or low I probably wouldn't purchase any of these one of a kinds.

UStayClassy
12-19-2009, 07:46 PM
I took a few pictures of Noah and the 5' Vinylmation today. Enjoy!
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8379/imag0048copy.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7970/imag0049copy.jpg
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3628/imag0050copy.jpg

peppermint
12-19-2009, 07:51 PM
Thanks for the pictures. Sorry I missed it.

WildWill
12-19-2009, 09:52 PM
I understand the Urban Vinyl movement pretty well I think, having followed it from afar since it's inception (AFtimes.com has always had a very strong section on Vinyl, and up until Disney started I didn't see the appeal at all, of course now I do). $500 for a hand designed vinyl from ANY name artist is a pretty darn good value. Add to that it's Disney, and the extra attention that the pieces were paid, well, if I were a richer man, I would have one.

Sadly I have a 3 year old, so $500 for anything that's not essential is out of range. I'm happy I was able to walk away with 4 new 3" vinyls today. The REGULAR 9" are out of my price range.

THAT ALL SAID...I saw them today and they were simply gorgeous. I'm extremely jealous of the gentleman in the wheelchair who was first in line this morning and got his pick of all 24 vinyls. The one he chose was simply gorgeous, and I would have chosen that one myself (UCLA Bruin colors).

Plus the presentation of the pieces was simply divine. The black velvet bag inside of the lunchbox was just an added bonus.

Racer X
12-19-2009, 10:04 PM
....... The black velvet bag inside of the lunchbox was just an added bonus.

Thank you for this tidbit. I guess it helps protect the vinyl from the lunchbox.

Was there any foam in the lunchbox?

Did it look like he started from a new black Blank or was the black painted as a base coat?

JaredtheQuad
12-19-2009, 10:12 PM
No foam inside the lunchbox but it came in the velvet bag. And it started as white...the bottom of it was still white!

Racer X
12-19-2009, 10:18 PM
The colored blanks will help with things like this are done in the future.

HauntedCollector
12-19-2009, 10:23 PM
No foam inside the lunchbox but it came in the velvet bag. And it started as white...the bottom of it was still white!

Jared I mentioned to the lady that you were with not to let them put the figure back in the bag once Noah signed it, because silver sharpies smear very easy until they dry. I hope the first set of people don't get home to find their signatures all messed up. I wish I would of talked to you at the show today, I would of gave you one of my custom cards I had made that I was giving out the the VN members I met.

Stingrayleo
12-21-2009, 09:09 AM
Do we know if it's sold out? I'm getting that itchy feeling.... UGH!!!!

mav
12-21-2009, 12:37 PM
When I left Saturday evening there were still 10 of them left. So there may still be some left.

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I don't think anyone mentioned the custom piece Noah created on Saturday is for sale. In case you were curious it's priced at $15,000.

It's in the D-street store behind a velvet rope. An employee has to stand guard becuase the rope doesn't provide any protection. The employee guarding the figure at the time I passed by said one kid had already whacked the figure.

tigger216
12-21-2009, 12:46 PM
I would suggest not being a completist. I can't imagine that anyone truly likes every single design that has or will come out. People's tastes just differ too much for that to happen. I reserved myself a long time ago to the fact that I'll probably try to get most of the Park figures and then other, select figures that I like. One, it takes the strain of my wallet and two, more importantly, I don't stress out about HAVING to have every single figure. I just enjoy the ones I do have already.

I totally agree with Big Al on this one. I myself like the Vinylmation collections, but have not gotten the vibe that I would feel had I been a completist and just gotten whole boxes worth. I honestly haven't seen any vinyls that I actually wanted to buy...although Noah's and Michelle St. Lauren have gotten me very convinced to do so for theirs...

felipereina
12-21-2009, 02:46 PM
Noah's Kustom Kulture Vinyls

Well were should I start… first things first this Vinyl was way over priced I would never spend this on a 3” vinyl unless it was really something cool to go after. If it had something more meaningful to the park, I might have considered it. But based off of some hotrod lines come on, is Disney already running out of ideas for the vinylmation series that they had to go down this route ?

I love the Park series those are by far my favorite so far, and I can’t wait for the Toy Story and Haunted Mansion sets to come out!!! These are must haves because they are truly Disney. But not the one’s Noah’s doing it just not Disney enough for me I guess. These are just my thought’s but I am sure there are several other members that have the same feelings, and only collect the true Disney designs…

rotary2808
12-21-2009, 02:49 PM
I really like these, but they're a little out of my price range. Would love to have one in my collection one day though.

BigAl_PT
12-21-2009, 02:58 PM
Noah's Kustom Kulture Vinyls

Well were should I start… first things first this Vinyl was way over priced I would never spend this on a 3” vinyl unless it was really something cool to go after. If it had something more meaningful to the park, I might have considered it. But based off of some hotrod lines come on, is Disney already running out of ideas for the vinylmation series that they had to go down this route ?

I love the Park series those are by far my favorite so far, and I can’t wait for the Toy Story and Haunted Mansion sets to come out!!! These are must haves because they are truly Disney. But not the one’s Noah’s doing it just not Disney enough for me I guess. These are just my thought’s but I am sure there are several other members that have the same feelings, and only collect the true Disney designs…
They're 9" figures.

I don't really collect many figures other than the Park Series figures. I may grab one or two from other series. But I think that, if people are willing to pay what price is being asked (and at least 14 people were from what it seems), then they were priced correctly. That being said, I would never spend that amount on a figure. It's my choice, but I just don't understand why people get so upset about hand-painted collectibles being priced so high. I would never spend that amount on a figure, but it doesn't bother me that other people would.

felipereina
12-21-2009, 03:30 PM
They're 9" figures.

I don't really collect many figures other than the Park Series figures. I may grab one or two from other series. But I think that, if people are willing to pay what price is being asked (and at least 14 people were from what it seems), then they were priced correctly. That being said, I would never spend that amount on a figure. It's my choice, but I just don't understand why people get so upset about hand-painted collectibles being priced so high. I would never spend that amount on a figure, but it doesn't bother me that other people would.


My mistake I though that they were 3" vinyls, I guess they got a little more for there money then, but still :crazy: expensive

Mouseman74
12-22-2009, 12:12 AM
My mistake I though that they were 3" vinyls, I guess they got a little more for there money then, but still :crazy: expensive

Well, the price is probably being driven from the fact that they are done by a commissioned Artist, and not a Disney Artist. Noah has his own works and gallery, but has been commissioned to do his interpretations of Disney and Mickey. I have seen some of his other paintings and he does have a unique style. Also, from your previous comment, it isn't that Disney ran out of idea and came up with the Classic Cars Lines, it was Noah himself. They commissioned him do some some 1 of a Kinds and this was what he came up with and tied it to some of his paintings.

mickeyfan1999
12-22-2009, 12:19 AM
I love them and hope to get one maybe one day!!!!

lilbocktell
12-22-2009, 07:03 AM
I saw a picture of these sitting at D Street with all of the cutester boxes. I was wondering if anyone knows if they are still available to buy? Thanks

rotary2808
12-22-2009, 08:50 AM
I saw a picture of these sitting at D Street with all of the cutester boxes. I was wondering if anyone knows if they are still available to buy? Thanks

As long as they still have some in stock they should still be available for purchase. You just have to locate the number for the store. I think I've seen it somewhere, but I can't recall where I saw it.

BeachGurl
12-22-2009, 09:34 AM
Not really into the Noah ones. Just a little too plain for me.

BigAl_PT
12-22-2009, 10:45 AM
Well, the price is probably being driven from the fact that they are done by a commissioned Artist, and not a Disney Artist. Noah has his own works and gallery, but has been commissioned to do his interpretations of Disney and Mickey. I have seen some of his other paintings and he does have a unique style. Also, from your previous comment, it isn't that Disney ran out of idea and came up with the Classic Cars Lines, it was Noah himself. They commissioned him do some some 1 of a Kinds and this was what he came up with and tied it to some of his paintings.
Well said. As evidenced by the sheer volume of new sets coming out, I don't think Disney is even close to being short on designs. Plus, you can always get a few new artists to add to the current mix that could add even more ideas for designs. The possibilities for designs are really limited by 2 things, the canvas itself and the imaginations of the artists.

Mouseman74
12-22-2009, 11:17 AM
I saw a picture of these sitting at D Street with all of the cutester boxes. I was wondering if anyone knows if they are still available to buy? Thanks

Yes. They have 8 still left for sale. All of them were signed by the Artist. I'm surprised at the ones still available as I thought a few of them were really great designs. Not that I have seen all 24 designs to know if any of the others were not as good, but they still have some nice looking ones left.