As predicted, Obi Wan Ghost Chasers starting to drop in price

[BuddhaMike]

Well, it looks like the craziness is starting to wear off with regard to the eBay selling of Star Wars Obi Wan Ghost Chasers. This past week a number of units sold in the low $200 range and most of the vendors starting bidding at $245 and up never got any bids and watched their auctions close without a sale. That's great news considering the release date wasn't even a full month ago.

And to think, Star Wars hasn't even been opened up for sale on DisneyStore.com, and I expect we'll see these cases available in that store for quite some time (think Muppets).

If we're seeing recent sales of the chaser at $200 or so, how long before we see it drop to the sweet spot? And what does everyone think the sweet spot will be? $100? $125?

If you're a re-seller, I would not recommend holding on to these for long. The days of selling one for $400 (or even $300) should be over, unless someone just makes a mistake and buys without researching. I'm going to wait one more month and then consider buying one. I'd like to hear the thoughts of others on this issue. I'm a little new to collecting Vinyls. I've made some mistakes along the way, but I've also gotten lucky with timing as well. Bought Balloon Chaser for $300 last year, and that seems to still be the going rate. But I also bought Wall-E/Eve for $300 and now there are some to be had for a lot less. Oh well, at least I have a set ;)

[mshalloween]

I honestly can't guess what the sweet spot might be, but if it settles around $100, I would pay that for the Ghost chaser. I'm glad these are dropping in price - I think people are starting to realize they aren't as rare as they thought they were.

[MaxGoof]

Even at 1/96 boxes, there are probably still WAY WAY more Super Chasers Ghost Obi Wans in circulation than any of the Park 1's. The super chaser name will only get this piece so far--I'd bet it'll be selling for $80 in about 1 month. Quote me! :lol:

[disneyobsessed808]

I'm guessing that they'll settle eventually to around 125. Who knows how many have been released but I guess we will see?

[ranaong]

Since I haven't had any luck blind boxing a Ghost Obi...with the price dropping...it might be possible to purchase one soon.

[gochmaster]

Im hoping they drop to 100... Im glad I didnt spend 300 on 1... I only bought 4 trays looking for one lolo

[azam527]

I would definitely pay $100 for one. Only since I have the rest of the series including the regular chaser from blind boxing and what are the chances of me blind boxing the ghost chaser on 10 boxes? I'd rather just take the sure thing lol

[drudawg]

$100 sounds about right for one. It's funny though, are most people wanting to buy one because it is a "super chaser" or because of the design? What if the regular Obi-Wan happened to be the super chaser and vice versa?

[azam527]

Well I would want both no matter what. I have the regular and he is awesome, but the ghost one is just cooler in my opinion. I mean I collected most of the animation series too, but I didn't care if I got all 4 of the variant chasers there. I mean whats the difference between a dark pink and a light pink elephant lol. But I guess depends on the collector.

[robertkelly.321]

I'd be willing to pay around $75 - $100 on a super chaser, but even that sounds high. I'm glad the price is finally coming down...if we could all just hold out longer, maybe the price would come down lower, lol. The only reason I want this one is to complete the set...in a way, you can say I'm a completist. I'm only missing the dark solid elephant from the Animation series. I'm willing to wait this one out though.

[mshalloween]

$100 sounds about right for one. It's funny though, are most people wanting to buy one because it is a "super chaser" or because of the design? What if the regular Obi-Wan happened to be the super chaser and vice versa?

It's a bit of both for me. I think the design is super cool (I like it more than the regular Obi-Wan) but if it wasn't a "super chaser" I'd probably only pay about $50 for it. :shrug:

[jaypee118]

I think people are starting to realize they aren't as rare as they thought they were.

My guess is that the initial "scare" of how rare these actually were came from how few were seen at the Florida release. When I was got mine signed at the California release, the artist said he only signed 1 in Florida, but had already signed 10 before mine (I was probably the 60th or so person in line). Whatever the cause of the "scare" was, I'm definitely interested in seeing just how rare these little guys are.

[SirScott99]

I think the lowest it will drop to will be somewhere between $100-$200. I say this because while it is still a super chaser it is still being circulated but still rare enough to be valuable. I saw a Pongo on ebay a few weeks go for $145 which are no longer in circulation but I can't see the Ghost going for higher than that. My logic may not make much sense in writing but it made perfect sense in my head.... hahaha

[Maraschiello]

Im hoping they drop to 100... Im glad I didnt spend 300 on 1... I only bought 4 trays looking for one lolo

wow! how many doubles do u have??

[SirScott99]

Im hoping they drop to 100... Im glad I didnt spend 300 on 1... I only bought 4 trays looking for one lolo

Care to share the wealth?? Haha

[InsaneforVinylmation]

Why pay that much for something you could find for 12.95

[roto888]

Why pay that much for something you could find for 12.95

I agree..It would be great to find one for 12.95. Plus you get that excitement of blind boxing it. But like most of you, I also agree the price will probably settle around the 100-125 range. Maybe slightly less. We'll find out soon enough.

[SirScott99]

Why pay that much for something you could find for 12.95

While I agree with you finding a regular chaser in a tray is hard enough, think how much you would have to spend to find the super chaser? It may just be worth it to spend the $$ if reasonable

[BullDurham]

I think the prices will always fluctuate especially if the number of them for sale tends to shrink. Anything around $100 for the ghost would be good in my eyes.

[Scarlet Hunter]

Why pay that much for something you could find for 12.95

Really? I for one am not paying anything over retail for SW. As a matter of fact I am not even going to pay retail. Just do not like the set that much. BUT.....You are paying for the collectablity of that particular vinyl. It is the rarest of the SW and because of that it is worth a whole lot more.

So If you do blind box the Ghost Obi, would you be willing to sell for $12.95? After all that is what you paid for it :lol:

[DisneyAndy]

I have to disagree on the price of this one dropping. I have a program that captures the final bid on specific items on ebay. I haven't seen an auction finish for less than $275. The lowest buy it now on ebay is $300. I think I should just buy that one to be safe. There are only 9 Ghost Chasers on ebay right now. I want to make sure I complete that set!

[kb24]

one actually just ended yesterday for like a couple dollars over 200

[Jonpho]

One just ended today for $197.

[BuddhaMike]

I have to disagree on the price of this one dropping. I have a program that captures the final bid on specific items on ebay. I haven't seen an auction finish for less than $275. The lowest buy it now on ebay is $300. I think I should just buy that one to be safe. There are only 9 Ghost Chasers on ebay right now. I want to make sure I complete that set!

No offense, but I suggest you get another program because the one you have is busted. It's easy to see what the going rate is for a product on eBay is because all you have to do is check Completed Listings from the Advanced search area. Before I made this post, for the week prior very few Ghost Chasers went for more than $250. And most auctions set at $245 or above were ending without bids. Buy It Now pricing is not a good reference point. There are four eBay sellers offering Wall-E/Eve for more than $1,000, but they SELL for around $250. I bought mine for $300 six months ago, and these are limited to just 500. I should have waited, but I panicked thinking I would never have another opportunity to get it so cheap.

If someone NEEDS to have a Ghost Chaser right now, they can bid for one and get it for around $200-220 - If anyone pays more than that and it's not signed by the artist, then they wasted their money. And you can bet the price will continue to drop. Not sure why so many panic about these things. Remember the Snowman/Snowglobe combo? People lost their minds and bought them for $100 and up the day after they were released, then the figures showed back up for several more weeks at $45 on DisneyStore.com. And those were limited - Star Wars is not. Lucas and Disney want to make as much as they can off this little partnership. Expect a Muppets-like run of these on DS.com at some point. And the more cases that sell, the more Super Chasers will be available. It's simple math. Sooner or later, I expect anyone will be able to buy a Super Chaser for under $100. Well, at least that's my sweet spot to buy. I don't see this chaser as more significant than the Gold Chaser, Cinderella 60th or News Bureau Tinkerbell and those are all still available in the low $100 range. Sooner or later, common sense and the numbers on these things will right itself. After blowing way too much in panic on these things, I've learned to settle down and wait it out.

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I think the lowest it will drop to will be somewhere between $100-$200. I say this because while it is still a super chaser it is still being circulated but still rare enough to be valuable. I saw a Pongo on ebay a few weeks go for $145 which are no longer in circulation but I can't see the Ghost going for higher than that. My logic may not make much sense in writing but it made perfect sense in my head.... hahaha

It's funny you mention the 'worth' of this chaser based on other popular chaser pricing. I had given similar reasoning in this same thread mentioning the current selling prices for Gold Chaser, Cinderella 60th and News Bureau Tinkerbell. These are all Holy Grail type figures depending on who you talk to, yet they all have been selling in the low $100 range. So my perspective is that this Super Chaser should be at or below those figures in average worth. And in no way should a super chaser from a recent series be selling for more than the Balloon Chaser, for goodness sakes. Balloons have been sold out forever, yet even they are dropping in price. I bought my first for $300. I recently bought another for $285 and traded it for Pooh-Piglet, which is also dropping under $300 now.

I think as more of these cases are sold, the numbers will grow on availability and quickly surpass the availability of Pongo, Gold Chaser, etc. People will start to establish 'worth' to this figure just as the worth of Balloon, Gold and Pongo has rested nicely and is actually falling somewhat. So, my guess is $100-120 for the Ghost Chaser with the occasional winning bid dropping under $100. Once I see the first one drop below $100, that's when I will jump. And if people want to start to see these drop quicker, then stop indulging the eBay re-sellers by taking their inflated Buy It Now offers.

[nebriowa]

I'm one of the few that think the ghost variant will never fall below $150. I predict it will hold steady between $150-200. Besides park 1, I think Star Wars series 1 is the second most popular vinylmation series of all time. In most cases, the first series release is usually the most popular and with this figure being the most wanted, I don't see demand fading.

Lastly, please take this with a grain of salt, but I heard rumors that they are now seeding the super chaser in cases at a lower rate than when first released. Anyone hear the same?

[alan.jimenez]

I have been searching for the obi wan ghost chaser and still cant get one....

[JasonS]

Lastly, please take this with a grain of salt, but I heard rumors that they are now seeding the super chaser in cases at a lower rate than when first released. Anyone hear the same?

Where did you hear this?

[Scarlet Hunter]

The nice thing about the Super Chaser is that it has and will continue to make the Regular Obi Wan chaser cheaper than it would have been if there was not a Super Chaser.

As far as the price of the Ghost. I agree with BhudaMike. $100 sounds about right. Although you may be surprised, the last 4 Balloon Chasers sold for $400 and I have seen Cindy at almost $200. So in the end who knows.

Ohh, and I love salt :lol:

[BuddhaMike]

I have been searching for the obi wan ghost chaser and still cant get one....

Did you buy a bunch of cases, or are you talking about blind boxing?

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I'm one of the few that think the ghost variant will never fall below $150. I predict it will hold steady between $150-200. Besides park 1, I think Star Wars series 1 is the second most popular vinylmation series of all time. In most cases, the first series release is usually the most popular and with this figure being the most wanted, I don't see demand fading.

Lastly, please take this with a grain of salt, but I heard rumors that they are now seeding the super chaser in cases at a lower rate than when first released. Anyone hear the same?

If you're right about Disney seeding them at a lower rate, then I would agree that the sweet spot might end up at $150. But IF they are indeed seeding these at a lower rate (which I doubt), then WHEN does (or did) this go into affect? How many cases have been bought or distributed to the stores and other re-sellers that have yet to be opened? All of this will play into how much the Ghost Chasers may drop in value until the change cycles through. So, maybe another week? Another month? Right now there are quite a few of these on eBay and most have been going for $200-ish. I expect more to flood the market as cases are sold and broken up, which means they will fall a little lower. Will they hit their floor at $150, or will it be closer to $100. I expect a few lucky people will bid and get them for around $100. My hope is that it is steady at that price for a while before they become limited again - but that won't be until the series is retired. The timetable on that might be similar to Muppets considering Disney had to make deals with a third party (George Lucas). I certainly don't know the deal that was made with Disney and Lucas, but I imagine that Lucas would want as many of these cases sold as possible over time. More cases mean more chasers. And I expect a lot more cases of Star Wars will be produced than that of Park 1 and other earlier series that have already been retired.

The economics of this is pretty simple. It's based on supply and demand. If more people refuse to pay more than $200 for Ghost Chasers, re-sellers will bring their pricing down (aside from patient sellers who are willing to wait a year or more for these to become extremely rare). No smart re-seller bought Ghost Chasers outright as an investment (if they did, they played a dangerous game of risk). It's more likely they bought and opened several cases to get them, which means that they make money even if they sell them for $100 (or even $50) because the series is popular enough for them to sell off all of the non-chasers at just above cost. As long as Star Wars is still selling in stores (and eventually online with DS.com), the prices will drop on the Chasers. How low will they go? Like I said, I'm planning on grabbing one for around $100 at some point. If they don't get that low, I'm perfectly happy with regular Obi Wan because it's a complete 12-unit set.

Remember, Obi Wan Ghost is the first of super chasers. And without knowing the true ratio of these (i.e. one per 10 cases?), it has made the value of these skyrocket prematurely and enticed greedy re-sellers to take advantage of what I call "Collector Fear".

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The nice thing about the Super Chaser is that it has and will continue to make the Regular Obi Wan chaser cheaper than it would have been if there was not a Super Chaser.

As far as the price of the Ghost. I agree with BhudaMike. $100 sounds about right. Although you may be surprised, the last 4 Balloon Chasers sold for $400 and I have seen Cindy at almost $200. So in the end who knows.

Ohh, and I love salt :lol:

I believe Joy_C sold two Balloon Chasers on VN.net in the past month or so for under $300. I bought one of them for $285 and I think she offered the other at around the same price. Balloon Chasers on eBay have commanded a premium, that's for sure. Instead of trading my 2nd one for Pooh-Piglet, I probably should have just sold it on eBay for $400 and bought Pooh-Piglet for $259 (current BIN price on eBay). I would have netted over $100. But, I felt it would be nice to finally trade with someone on the VN site and get them something they really wanted for something I really wanted. I may have lost some money, but I felt the trade was about even at the time. I paid $285 for the chaser and I had always placed about $275-$300 value on Pooh-Piglet. I was happy with the trade as was the recipient of the Balloon Chaser.

With the Balloon Chaser, people just need to be patient. While they're limited, there are plenty of people who collect a little over their heads and need money, so Balloon Chasers can sometimes be had for under $300. You just have to keep an eye out and make a good decision.

[disneynuts]

Ok first the quick answer I think between $100.00 and 150.00. But there are two factors that will have a HUGE impact. 1) How many people collecting the set are star wars fans not vm fans ? The more people collecting the sets, thehigher the price, plus add in star wars collectors are more likely to be willing to pay higher prices for a "complete" set. 2) How many cases/trays will Disney produce ? There will come a point where all those with the willingness and funds to pay over say $50.00 for a single VM will dry up and then prices will drop quickly.

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This may be the wrong thread if there is please redirect me to the correct one, but what should be the appropriate price to pay for a regular chaser, say from park 5, park 3, animation or villain series ? I do no seem to have any luck getting them from the blind boxes, and per previous posts I do not want to have to buy whole trays to get one.

[Panonboard]

D-street at Disneyland had 10000 boxes the day of the star wars release and then got their second shipment. I'm glad I sold my ghosts before prices dropped however I wish I would have kept a signed one.

[abelambriz]

so now its under 200.00 in less than a month. what i think will help them drop even more when disnyland starts selling them in all the stores. witch i now will be soon


http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-Disney-Vinylmation-Obi-Wan-Ghost-Super-Chaser-/260735189101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb507406d&autorefresh=true

[DisneyAndy]

I am happy I got one. (Even if you say that it was an inflated price.)
If they indeed did start reducing the frequency of Ghost Chasers as someone stated then at least I got one early.
It's anybody's guess really.
I just didn't want to be stuck without one like the Balloon chaser.
I hate having incomplete sets of anything!

[nebriowa]

Where did you hear this?

A friend that works at Disneyland told me this, but as I said earlier take this with a grain of salt as his job is totally unrelated to sales and vinylmation.

[BuddhaMike]

[QUOTE=abelambriz;293414]so now its under 200.00 in less than a month. what i think will help them drop even more when disnyland starts selling them in all the stores. witch i now will be soon

Check it out. Over the last six days, Ghost Chasers sold on eBay in this order: $200, $202.50, $224.53, $197.50, $188.01, $199.99, 194.52, $215 and $191.37. Several other auctions under $300 didn't even score a bid and went unsold. Buy it Now pricing is already starting to fall into the low $200 range and I bet even more re-sellers will lower their prices soon else get caught holding them and losing even more revenue.

It's hard to pass up a Ghost Chaser under $200, but I'm sticking to my plan. I'm waiting until the bids start closing at around $100 before jumping in. One month from now, once more stores (including DS.com) starts selling cases, there will be even more Ghost Chasers on the market. If I get one for $100, I think I'll be fine with that, even if they drop into the $50-$75 range. Good luck to all who are still holding out. This one has been tough to judge - thanks Disney ;)

[oofrost]

Nice analysis Mike. I think that they'll continue to drop in price. Sub $100 would be a good price.

[acxus921]

i'm still holding out on this one. untill it hits the $75 range...then i'll make the jump.

[misthunter0102]

I would love to have the set, but I don't know how much I am willing to spend. I would feel pretty strange spending $300 on a vinylmation though...

[omgitsjhock]

i don't even care for the "super chaser" idea or this design, but i need it to complete my star wars series (both obi chasers as a matter of fact). i shop on eBay for stuff all the time, so i'm guessing it will probably fall around 100-150 eventually. it is still pretty new to drop that low I think, until everyone gets one and it's a done deal :)

[izzerl]

I'd rather just wait it out

[mepierce01]

I know this isn't "directly" related to this thread, but in reading through this discussion I noticed that BuddhaMike continues to reference the fact that this series will have a long run on DS.com. I want to make sure that he, along with anyone else reading this thread, understands that it WILL NOT be sold on DS.com EVER. Please refer to the Disney Parks blog post (http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/01/the-force-is-strong-with-vinylmation/) where Steven Miller discussed the release of the series. The blog post says, "This Vinylmation series was developed especially for the Disney Parks. It will not be available for sale via the on-line Disney Theme Park Store or at local Disney Stores." This fact was discussed on other threads on this forum, and I know many potential buyers were going to wait for this to show up on the site until it was pointed out to them that it will not.

I'm not sure how much of an impact this fact might have on BuddhaMike's assessment of the future pricing of the Ghost Obi-Wan super chaser, but I'd be curious to hear what you think, as this is a very interesting topic. I personally bought one case, didn't get the super chaser, and I'm ok with that. I don't really want to be spending $100-200 on one 3" vinyl, regardless of rarity, when I could get a whole tray of another series for a little bit more. But that's just me.

[BuddhaMike]

I know this isn't "directly" related to this thread, but in reading through this discussion I noticed that BuddhaMike continues to reference the fact that this series will have a long run on DS.com. I want to make sure that he, along with anyone else reading this thread, understands that it WILL NOT be sold on DS.com EVER. Please refer to the Disney Parks blog post (http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/01/the-force-is-strong-with-vinylmation/) where Steven Miller discussed the release of the series. The blog post says, "This Vinylmation series was developed especially for the Disney Parks. It will not be available for sale via the on-line Disney Theme Park Store or at local Disney Stores." This fact was discussed on other threads on this forum, and I know many potential buyers were going to wait for this to show up on the site until it was pointed out to them that it will not.

I'm not sure how much of an impact this fact might have on BuddhaMike's assessment of the future pricing of the Ghost Obi-Wan super chaser, but I'd be curious to hear what you think, as this is a very interesting topic. I personally bought one case, didn't get the super chaser, and I'm ok with that. I don't really want to be spending $100-200 on one 3" vinyl, regardless of rarity, when I could get a whole tray of another series for a little bit more. But that's just me.

Thanks for responding. I never saw the blog about Star Wars being only available at the Parks and through Mail Order from the Parks. Interesting that Lucas would want to restrict sales like that. I thought for sure this would be a similar offering to Muppets. I'm not sure it will change the quantity and availability, though. That same blog has responses below it from Steven Miller that talk about distribution and availability, "The initial launch will take place at the D-Street locations. After a period of time (and depending upon availability of inventory), we will spread the series to other locations throughout Disney Parks and Resorts." Miller also added, "The good news is that this series is planned to be around for awhile. After January 28, it will be spread to additional locations (depending upon availability). As mentioned, it will be around for awhile so we have back-up orders already planned."

Prices on the Ghost Chaser this week have stayed consistently at or under $200, so it's not just a few people getting a good deal. I don't have a crystal ball, but since it's so very early still for this release I expect we'll see the price drop a little more. I'm still guessing around $100-$120 range. Once I see it get that low on a few auctions, that's when it will hit the sweet spot for me. Fingers crossed :)

[mepierce01]

Yeah, I think it will continue to drop, too. I think this will be one of if not the largest series produced in terms of quantity, so even with a "super chaser," there will be plenty of Ghost Obi-Wans to go around. With the first Star Wars Weekend over three months away, one would assume these will continue to be produced for quite some time. I also think there will be a HUGE influx of trays at WDW in the middle of May in preparation for all of the Star Wars fanatics who will be on hand. Every indication from Disney points to them wanting to have lots of SW Vinylmation available at that time. Until then, I guess we'll just have to hope that the price steadily climbs down towards the "affordable" range.

[abelambriz]

one sold today for 177.00 there going down and with fee shiping as more come out they will keep dropping

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vinylmation-Star-Wars-Obi-Wan-Kenobi-SUPER-CHASER-/120685619318?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c196c6876

[Barefoot JJ]

YAY!

[omgitsjhock]

one sold today for 177.00 there going down and with fee shiping as more come out they will keep dropping

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vinylmation-Star-Wars-Obi-Wan-Kenobi-SUPER-CHASER-/120685619318?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c196c6876

WOW that's an awesome deal! Can't believe they have dropped THAT much already. crazy!

[abelambriz]

i think there going to go down even more just wait tell disneyland CA get more in

[Chuggaaconroy]

Yeah I never knew why these ghost-obi vinylmations kept going for so much money in the first place. The cast members of D-street said that they only come 1 out of every 15 boxes (not whole cases) So thats around one super chaser every two cases. But it is a really cool design and I would probably buy one if it went down to $75 - $100 :lol:

[BuddhaMike]

Yeah I never knew why these ghost-obi vinylmations kept going for so much money in the first place. The cast members of D-street said that they only come 1 out of every 15 boxes (not whole cases) So thats around one super chaser every two cases. But it is a really cool design and I would probably buy one if it went down to $75 - $100 :lol:

One out of 15 boxes doesn't seem right - seems like too many. I was under the impression it was more rare than that, like one out of every 6 cases. Who here buys multiple cases for re-sell? It would be nice to know the ratio. If it's one out of every two cases, or even one per four, then there are going to be plenty enough to go around and in no way should the prices stay above $150. We're at a point where we're still not sure the ratio and many have sold under $200 the past two weeks. When these get down to $100, it's going to be hard not to jump on one. I know what's going to happen. I'm going to jump on one at $110 and then see it fall to $75 or lower two months later. This has happened to me with several higher ticket Vinyls - Balloon Chaser (paid $300, then they sold for $275), Wall-e (paid $300, one sold today for $267), Gold Chaser (paid $171, one just sold for $125). Lessons learned from those purchases have taught me to wait it out. Even when they're all sold out, someone out there always needs the money ;) Still, it's tough to be patient and a bit of a challenge to understand when the 'sweet spot' is for picking one up. We know enough about the Balloon Chaser to see it's never going to drop much lower than $275, and it's usually at or above $300. No need to wait if someone's offering one for $275 - grab it :) But a Ghost Chaser at $150 or maybe $125? A lot of people are going to find that hard to pass up, then get disappointed if it drops even further. Collecting plastic Mickey Mouse's (mice?) shouldn't be so stressful.

[azam527]

The one for 177 that sold was actually the one I bought lol. I figured the chance of me blind boxing one out of 18 pulls is pretty low, plus reselling them on ebay or even here is a pain because no one wants to pay what I bought them for even and then im stuck with tons of doubles. Im finally just getting rid of most of my doubles from the villains trying to pull a jafar (and not succeeding). If it falls in price soon, then so be it I didn't want the temptation of buying more star wars vinyls when im at DLR next week lol

[Panonboard]

It is one in every 10 cases. The reason why there are so many out there is because star wars sold out quickly. If every set sold as well as star wars then we would be seeing the variant and chaser a lot more often. I'm expecting the price to shoot up again because most likely they won't release star wars one again just like they did with the release of urban and park one.

[mshalloween]

It is one in every 10 cases. The reason why there are so many out there is because star wars sold out quickly. If every set sold as well as star wars then we would be seeing the variant and chaser a lot more often. I'm expecting the price to shoot up again because most likely they won't release star wars one again just like they did with the release of urban and park one.

Where did you hear that it is one in every 10 cases?

[kczap360]

I believe the price should stay close to $200.00 and is a fair price becuase of how hard it is to get the figure. Out of 14 cases I only was lucky enough to get 2. And that was A lOT OF $$$$

[BuddhaMike]

I believe the price should stay close to $200.00 and is a fair price becuase of how hard it is to get the figure. Out of 14 cases I only was lucky enough to get 2. And that was A lOT OF $$$$

It's below $200 right now with MANY, MANY more cases to be sold over the next few months. We're only a month 1/2 into the release of these and I wouldn't be surprised to see these cases topple previous sales of other popular series like Park 1 and Urban 1. While there are a number of Star Wars fans, I don't believe that the Ghost Chaser will continue to sell so high. It shouldn't be selling for more than Gold Chaser, Cinderella's 60th, New Bureau Tink, etc. Those are truly hard to find figures well out of production that are selling in the $100-$175 range. The real key here is 'how many'
cases will be sold. If sales for these go on for 4-6 months, or longer (like Muppets), then there's no reason to believe the prices won't continue to fall until they stop producing them.

I think this particular Super Chaser is getting so much attention for a number of reasons; it's the first super chaser, it's associated with a serious collector brand outside of Disney, it's unknown the ratio of each to the number of cases produces, and it's unknown how long they will be in circulation.

But now isn't the time for collectors to panic. Worth is defined differently by each collector. Some felt it necessary to get one right away and are OK with paying $300+. Others, like me, choose to wait on these things to drop. In a span of two weeks they went from $400 down to $177, and those were evilBay sales. Knowing that, do you really believe that these won't drop under $150 over the next few weeks? I think they're going to fall into the low $100's. Now, I believe you are correct that they may eventually may bounce back to $200 and stay that way, but it's going to be after Disney stops producing them.

Disclaimer for those reading this: I do not work for Disney nor to I have any direct insight into how these figures will play out over time. These are just my opinions based on previous collecting practices and my assumption that this figure was over-inflated in price to begin with. I really want one of these figures and I'm sharing my own thought process into what I believe is happening in the marketplace. So, take my comments with a grain of salt and make decisions on buying based on what YOU believe. I am not a Disney Vinylmation Financial Adviser ;)

[Smallcandles]

I agree with BuddhaMike. The FAQ states that "limited" means limited in time, not limited in production size. So if Star Wars sold out fast, they'll just produce more on the next production run. Even if the ratio of normal to super chasers is low, huge production runs will normalize those prices pretty nicely. I expect to see the super chaser under 100 before the end of the Star Wars run, but the collector's market is always rather unpredictable.

[Panonboard]

Where did you hear that it is one in every 10 cases?

That was info given to me from a few cm. Some said one in every 15 cases and some said one in every 10. It started off as one in every 4 cases. Dst in dlr got 10,000 cases the day of the release.

[mshalloween]

That was info given to me from a few cm. Some said one in every 15 cases and some said one in every 10. It started off as one in every 4 cases. Dst in dlr got 10,000 cases the day of the release.

I see. I have to take all information from CMs with a grain of salt as I'm not entirely sure they know the answers a lot of the time either :shrug:

[niccailea]

They will continue to drop, and I believe that the collectors that don't have to have one will be able to get one for the price of about 105-120. Then one will be mine

[azam527]

I thought from the other thread they came up with about 1 in 4? I havent looked at it in a while thought so it could have changed. 1 in 10 seems way too low, even for something that is supposed to be rare. 1 in 4 seems at least somewhat fair.

[HT11]

I had heard 1 in 4 or 5 was the general opinion. 1 in 10 cases seems a bit high. And yes, I do see it settling at about $125 range for the super chaser if supply actually stays on the market. With them selling out each production run so far, I think we'll continue to see price fluctuations as the supply goes up and down consistently.

[Chuggaaconroy]

The lowest I've seen one go so far was $180. We're getting there! :lol:

[BuddhaMike]

The lowest I've seen one go so far was $180. We're getting there! :lol:

I was hoping they would keep creeping down in price continuously, but they seem to be steadily selling at around $200. I hope that's not the sweet spot, cause I'm not paying $200 for a super chaser. The only single Vinyl that should be above $200 is the Balloon Chaser. Nothing new should be that high.

It's all about supply and demand, though. Star Wars is going to be out for a while. And as long as people keep buying sets, Ghost Chasers will be available. I'm hoping they'll drop below $150, but I'm not so sure now. I'm just going to wait for a bit and see if someone in need of money puts one up on VN.net.

[rexofallthings]

Since it's been almost a month since the last post.... It doesn't seem the prices have gone down. What have they been selling at?

[VMkrazy]

the price will not change until new stock pops out in the market. Since star wars hasn't been restock yet, what you see in ebay is still the remaining ghost obi wans that were purchased during the initial release. price will go down somehow when more ghost obi wans are out. no need to purchase them right now at those prices.

[jeffztt]

I'm predicting that the prices will remain stable until they come back in stock, then when the are in stock and Star Wars Weekends are going on and there is a SW frenzy, the prices will start to increase again until the hardcore SW fans have completed their collections, then the prices will start to drop again. At the current ratios, I can see it bottoming out at $125, but then increasing again once this series sells out.

[VinylmationMike]

I think that the Chaser is going to stay around the $200 mark. They can't keep them on the shelves and the amount of people who are star wars fans and are becoming Vinylmation fans is growing as well. Unfortunately for me and everyone else who doesn't have a super chaser think we are going to have to cough up $200.

[xlBatmanlx]

I sold one on ebay starting at 149.99. And it went all the way to 187.42. I knew selling it at $300 would not work out for me. And I blind-Box him to:happy:

[ranaong]

can't get myself to drop so much money on one vinyl.

[acxus921]

can't get myself to drop so much money on one vinyl.

me either, especially for a current vinyl. maybe, if i can never find it and if the set finally goes out of production.

[djb83]

It's been a while since we had a new post on this topic. I have been watching these bad boys on ebay and they are going around $200. However, w/ the re-release just around the corner the price should drop dramatically bc every other person who blind boxes one they are gonna post it on the net. I think there are currently 4-5 on ebay. I am willing to bet that number triples if you search for them at the end of June. That's when I strike. I love the design and have the complete rest of the set (including an Evilos custom Luke)

[ironlou]

Same here djb83. I am waiting until the next wave comes out and snatchign up one of these at that time.

[madsmort]

Ditto.

[cgbrules]

That's the one down side to owning vinylmation, the hysteria. Reminds me of the beanie baby craze in the 90's

[TBZimmer]

Thats exactly what I told my wife, just think Beanie Babies

[nickalew]

Thats exactly what I told my wife, just think Beanie Babies

I thought so too, but beanie babies died so fast...
and if disney has had pin trading for 10+ years then I hope VMs will flourish for that long as well

[Shadowfax]

Beanie babies did not have the marketing, diversity, and history of Disney. They were pretty much a one hit wonder. Disney on the other hand has a diverse multigenerational appeal that has only grown with time. I am confident Vinyls are here to stay. I hear people compare Vinyls to Beanies and express concern that it's going to be a trend and die out. It's simply comparing apples to oranges.

[JohnBlackk]

Beanie babies did not have the marketing, diversity, and history of Disney. They were pretty much a one hit wonder. Disney on the other hand has a diverse multigenerational appeal that has only grown with time. I am confident Vinyls are here to stay. I hear people compare Vinyls to Beanies and express concern that it's going to be a trend and die out. It's simply comparing apples to oranges.

Agreed 1000% Disney is forever.

[Chuggaaconroy]

got my Ghost-Obi chaser from the tray I bought yesterday from the star wars re-release, I got him signed too! Its a great day for a 14 year old! :happy:

[xzerus]

i don't know how people can do to buy this figure for $100. It's like the original price multiply by 10. I'm loving to collect CM but it become a real business.

[GCAL]

Personally I like the design of the ghost chaser.Finding out how much it was being sold for made me want it more. I recently purchased a tray and haven't opened it yet.I don't really know what i'm waiting for.....maybe the perfect setting? lol.....If i don't get it. I'm still not sure I would pay over $100 for it.

[22soultaker]

Personally I like the design of the ghost chaser.Finding out how much it was being sold for made me want it more. I recently purchased a tray and haven't opened it yet.I don't really know what i'm waiting for.....maybe the perfect setting? lol.....If i don't get it. I'm still not sure I would pay over $100 for it.

What the? i wouldnt have even been able to leave the park without opening it lol

[meg8182000]

I wouldn't pay $100 for the Ghost Chaser but I'm lucky that I don't have to as I picked one up from blind boxing last month in WDW. Still can't believe my luck - I never blind box the chasers so to blind box this super chaser made my day for sure. I actually bought 10 blind boxes and got 10 different vinyls - no duplicates. It was my best pull ever for one series. Very excited.

[NeutralNovice]

Prices look to be creeping up again on these ghosts! Looks like 295+ is the going rate. I would predict, that since they will supposedly be re-releasing series #1, that the best time to sell is now since many more will be making an appearance in the near future, if the re-release holds up.

[BuddhaMike]

Prices look to be creeping up again on these ghosts! Looks like 295+ is the going rate. I would predict, that since they will supposedly be re-releasing series #1, that the best time to sell is now since many more will be making an appearance in the near future, if the re-release holds up.

I hope Star Wars cases will be available when I head to Disney in March. I'll blind box a few just to see. But if I cannot get one that way, I'm hopefully enough cases will be sold to push a few more of these into the market at once. That will help bring the cost down temporarily. At one point, people were buying these off eBay for as low as $170 and that's when Disney didn't produce enough cases initially. Hopefully they'll push out a lot more cases the next time around - unless they're allergic to money ;)

[Nirvinyl]

Hopefully they'll push out a lot more cases the next time around - unless they're allergic to money ;)

I don't think Disney are allergic to money - though it would seem that vinylmation collectors have developed an allergic reaction to it, with the way that we all seem to want to get rid of as much of the stuff as possible!

[vinylv]

I wouldn't pay $100 for the Ghost Chaser but I'm lucky that I don't have to as I picked one up from blind boxing last month in WDW. Still can't believe my luck - I never blind box the chasers so to blind box this super chaser made my day for sure. I actually bought 10 blind boxes and got 10 different vinyls - no duplicates. It was my best pull ever for one series. Very excited.

Congrats meg8182000, I wish I had your luck! :clap:

[nkbnguyen]

So... are the prices of the variants finally dropping? I still need him :(

[mariorzam]

I'd like to get this too, but even $100 is steep for me.

[crazydiznypincollector]

D Street at Downtown Disney had Star Wars Trays in a week ago Sunday and I picked up three blind boxes and drew a Ghost Obi Wan. Went back last week and they were all sold out. Was told they will not be getting any more in. So I had to buy the others online to complete the set. ended up getting the other 11 figures for $112 on eBay. I think the price will never drop and after each one sells there will be one fewer on ebay and as fewer and fewer are listed, the price will skyrocket. In a year or two you can see them going for over 1K!

[Usagi]

D Street at Downtown Disney had Star Wars Trays in a week ago Sunday and I picked up three blind boxes and drew a Ghost Obi Wan. Went back last week and they were all sold out. Was told they will not be getting any more in. So I had to buy the others online to complete the set. ended up getting the other 11 figures for $112 on eBay. I think the price will never drop and after each one sells there will be one fewer on ebay and as fewer and fewer are listed, the price will skyrocket. In a year or two you can see them going for over 1K!

I was at DL D-street the weekend of the 14 and I was able to get 8 of the 12 we needed. We needed Han Solo, Darth Vader, Boba Fett, and R2D2. By Sunday though they were out and we were stuck with 2 extra Landos and a Luke.

I was hoping they would have more when I go back in Decemeber but if it's true what they told you, I guess I have to resort to ebay. I hate searching ebay! I did get a Han Solo for a good price. I'm hoping he's not fake. =/

[guapotimmy]

I bought one box in October to give to a friend of mine as a gift. He opened it several weeks later and found it was the ghost Obi-Wan. He had no interest whatsoever and traded it back to me for a Chewbacca

[Djini]

I think if they are down to around the £100 mark (That's about $150 US) I'd consider it. Other than that I'll just stick to a 12 figure set with the 'regular' chaser.

There's something I don't like about having a 13 figure set so if I don't think the Super Chaser is feasible, I'll stick to a regular Chaser for the set. Superstitious!

[IamThePan]

Greetings all,

I'm not sure if this has already been posted but I would like to pick at your thoughts for the moment. What are your opinions on the future value of Ghost Obi?

I currently do not have this vinyl in my collection but I am actively trying to trade for it. As much as I would love to have this vinyl, my gut is telling me not to be heavily vested in it. The rerelease, the presence of Ebay scrappers, and the possibility that SW could be around until the end of October has me thinking that Ghost Obi will continue to fall from its current value. I've been eyeing Ebay and see plenty of completed listings in the $165-$175 range.

This week alone I've had three different traders serious about trading their Ghost Obi. Before the rerelease my only shot at a Ghost was to go through Ebay. No one was actively trading him.... Now that his value is starting to slump, he is a very viable trade. And so goes the cat and mouse game... "what is your fair deal for him?"

Is it far-fetched for me to believe that his value will settle into $130-$140's range after everything is said and done? :idea:

Congrats to those that already have him. I hope to be in your shoes one day. Your comments/thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Iamthepan

[AND123W]

The price seems right about now.. it might go a little lower. But I'd imagine the price going back up in the future.

[IamThePan]

The price seems right about now.. it might go a little lower. But I'd imagine the price going back up in the future.

I feel the same. Once he retires, his value will shoot back up. I am contemplating holding off on actively trading for him and sitting it out for a couple of months. Hopefully I can trade for him while his value is even lower.

[Plu9530]

If it's true that more SW shipments will be arriving soon at the parks, then the value should drop down even more.

[mutt7000]

I wouldnt think that just because more is getting released that the value will drop. I think disney produced a certain amount of star wars and just held them to a slow release. I dont think they are making anymore than what the inital production # was. I think a good comparison is the cutesters 2 green apple. The green apple just has the whole amount out at retail now and it has settled at its price. Once the rest of star wars gets released the obi probley will settle in the $150-175 range, it could stay a little higher due to the fact that its star wars and has a bigger following than cutesters. And dont count out the fact it might go up once sw2 comes out.

So I would advise going for it right now while its at what might be its lowest point. If you have to give up 4 or 5 vinyls to get it go for it if they are extras and you need to ghost, complete your set. :)

[IamThePan]

I wouldnt think that just because more is getting released that the value will drop. I think disney produced a certain amount of star wars and just held them to a slow release. I dont think they are making anymore than what the inital production # was. I think a good comparison is the cutesters 2 green apple. The green apple just has the whole amount out at retail now and it has settled at its price. Once the rest of star wars gets released the obi probley will settle in the $150-175 range, it could stay a little higher due to the fact that its star wars and has a bigger following than cutesters. And dont count out the fact it might go up once sw2 comes out.

So I would advise going for it right now while its at what might be its lowest point. If you have to give up 4 or 5 vinyls to get it go for it if they are extras and you need to ghost, complete your set. :)

Thanks for the advice and incite. The best I can do is give an honest value for his current worth and trade quality vinyls that would make the deal fair. Hopefully he'll be sitting in my display case within the next couple of weeks.

[ranaong]

Goodluck IamThePan...I'm in the same boat. Going back and forth on whether just to pull the trigger and purchase.

[IamThePan]

Goodluck IamThePan...I'm in the same boat. Going back and forth on whether just to pull the trigger and purchase.

Hey Rana,

I'm sure you'll be able to trade for it with what you have. You have a solid list of high value vinyls. Good luck!

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So my pending trade for Ghost occurs this Wednesday... We are pretty much locked in and all we need to do is trade vinyls. I was really on the fence about trading for Ghost because there is no way really to authenticate whether it is a scrapper or not unless you see the trader blox it in person. To mitigate my risk...

I've already contacted another trader on his credibility and been advised to look out for a couple of things...
- blemishes
- must have his painted on fingernails
- serial # on the bottom of the foot.

I've found the following Ghost serial number on multiple Ebay listings: W548 1034 6 11259

Is there any other serial #s or do they all have the same one?

-

[AND123W]

What is a scrapper?

[jperez]

great reads by all... still contemplating as well whether or not to pull the trigger... as of today, last one to complete the set.

[Djini]

What is a scrapper?A 'fake' Vinyl.

[2zon]

Quote Originally Posted by AND123W View Post
What is a scrapper?
A 'fake' Vinyl.

Scrappers aren't necessarily fake. They are mostly vinyls that have been produced, but may have a production defect or do not meet quality standards. These batches are typically thrown away, and people salvage them and resell them. My typical giveaway of a scrapper is that the serial number is missing from the bottom of the figure.

[D23family]

great reads by all... still contemplating as well whether or not to pull the trigger... as of today, last one to complete the set.

I want to "pull the trigger too", but I think if I do, my wife would pull a real trigger on me lol.

[lintman]

great reads by all... still contemplating as well whether or not to pull the trigger... as of today, last one to complete the set.


I want to "pull the trigger too", but I think if I do, my wife would pull a real trigger on me lol.

I can't imagine paying $200 for a 3" vinyl. I did get lucky and blind box Ghost Obi so maybe that skews my opinion. :shrug:

I have never gone out of my way to collect variants on other sets so I would probably be fine omitting that one from my collection too.

[D23family]

I can't imagine paying $200 for a 3" vinyl. I did get lucky and blind box Ghost Obi so maybe that skews my opinion. :shrug:

I have never gone out of my way to collect variants on other sets so I would probably be fine omitting that one from my collection too.

I mean this is the way I think of it...say I did want to spend 200 on one(which I don't) I might as well go to d-street and spend 200 on bloxes. Least this was I get traders and a possible ghost. But being 420 miles away from Disneyland doesn't help my situation either lol.

[redtop]

If somebody is only collecting SW then maybe but otherwise just wait or trade for it if you get lucky on an awesome future high valued variant on a future or current set.

[Ghostobi]

I just bought one of eBay and am worried about it being fake. There is a serial number but it's a little on the edge of the figure and the serial number is different than the one post. What do y'all think?

[KAJIHOLIC]

I mean this is the way I think of it...say I did want to spend 200 on one(which I don't) I might as well go to d-street and spend 200 on bloxes. Least this was I get traders and a possible ghost. But being 420 miles away from Disneyland doesn't help my situation either lol.

It's a chance rather than just buying it, I saw a couple over the weekend at DStreet buying a tray, they told me it was their 4th tray they've purchased just to find ghost Obi.

[D23family]

Yea I wouldnt go that far to buy 4 cases just for one obi. Especially because the market is so saturated with starwars now. It's hard to sell or trade them when they are readily available.

[wb2928]

i guess i'm lucky got my granddaughter to pick him out of blind boxes at star wars at hollywood studios-started me to collect whole set!

[Sole By The Pound]

My girlfriend purchased a sealed set last night and pulled a ghost Obi Wan. I am pretty sure this figure will remain in the $200 price range and possibly could climb when Series 1 is no longer in circulation.

[Buzzrunner]

i agree that the value will go up again once they no longer sell series 1. even tho the price on ebay has gone down for these, the trading value is still pretty high. i just traded a yoda today for a steam boat pete from villains 1. makes me want to buy more star wars just for the trade value

[Boggerbret]

I was at the trading Convention on 5-11-12 at the contemporary resort, and I pretty much got Laughed at with ever trader when I asked if they wanted star wars lol. But I did see 2 different traders with the ghost obi's and 2 more come out of the Disney Mystery Box, as well as many other chasers. It was Coined "the Chaser box".

[JoshW]

The price has gotten very low now. The highest I see is usually $225 on eBay. Most of the time they're between $125-$200. The price has gotten better from a long time ago.

[pdhanna429]

I had been wanting to trade, but everyone laughed at me with what I had a available. LOL!
I finally pulled the trigger and bought one for my husband on ebay. It is his father's day gift this year. I spent $153, which I guess is about average these days.

[Boggerbret]

I spent $153, which I guess is about average these days.

That seems about right to me, I am am about to buy one also. It's cheaper than buying cases and hoping to get one.

[brnz'12]

I got lucky and on my second trip out to Disneyland my wife and I scored the Ghost Obi Wan. If I get another but that is a small chance then probably going to sell it and buy more of another set.

[Engel]

My girlfriend purchased a sealed set last night and pulled a ghost Obi Wan. I am pretty sure this figure will remain in the $200 price range and possibly could climb when Series 1 is no longer in circulation.
series one? you mean they plan on "retiring" this star wars set?
i really hope i can have one someday. i will ask my brother or i myself will order online a sealed case of star wars, hoping to get obi ghost

[Phylers]

series one? you mean they plan on "retiring" this star wars set?

Series 1 will last likely until the Fall. When it sells out, it will no longer be produced, as Series 2 will have debuted by then (currently, Series 2 is expected in August :thumbsup:). :)

[Engel]

Series 1 will last likely until the Fall. When it sells out, it will no longer be produced, as Series 2 will have debuted by then (currently, Series 2 is expected in August :thumbsup:). :)

Thank you! i better buy a set before that time!

[FairestOfThemAll]

We saw a girl pull a ghost Obi from the box yesterday at D-Street. Hard not to be a little jealous...

[Carol]

Now seems to be a good time to buy a Ghost Obi Super Chaser if anyone else wants one.

I noticed that there seemed to be a fair few being sold on ebay last week with very few bidders on them, so they were going for close to starting price - in the $125 to $140 range.

I bid on a few and finally got one yesterday for $125. Pretty happy with that - I certainly wasn't going to buy them up towards $200 and over - but I really wanted one!

[BuddhaMike]

I honestly can't guess what the sweet spot might be, but if it settles around $100, I would pay that for the Ghost chaser. I'm glad these are dropping in price - I think people are starting to realize they aren't as rare as they thought they were.

Well, did you finally get your Obi Wan Ghost Chaser? I decided to exercise some patience and wait it out until these got to that magical number of $100. Well, over a year later Ghost Chasers finally got down to $100. eBay has been seeing them go out the door at $110 or so plus shipping. I made an offer today and got one for $100. Magical!

My only fear is that it drops even further. I was in D-Street in March and there were SO MANY cases!
Maybe I paid too much, but it's a cool Vinyl and necessary for my collection.

This was really the white whale for me, so I guess my "essential" Vinylmation collection is complete :) And that's actually easy to say with the ugliness of the new mold. I refuse to buy any of the new mold unless it's one particular character I can't miss out on - even then I still cringe. I think it was an incredibly dumb decision to remove Mickey's nose. Is that some sort of inside joke by the person who suggested it? "Cut off his nose to spite his face?" LOL.


Scrappers aren't necessarily fake. They are mostly vinyls that have been produced, but may have a production defect or do not meet quality standards. These batches are typically thrown away, and people salvage them and resell them. My typical giveaway of a scrapper is that the serial number is missing from the bottom of the figure.

Thanks for this. It helped in my successful search.

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We saw a girl pull a ghost Obi from the box yesterday at D-Street. Hard not to be a little jealous...

I was hoping to do the same a few months ago. We took our 4-year-old son to Disney World this past March and stopped by D-Street to check out the Vinyls. I blind-boxed two Star Wars series. Unfortunately one was Leia and the other Chewbacca.

[Engel]

I agree..It would be great to find one for 12.95. Plus you get that excitement of blind boxing it. But like most of you, I also agree the price will probably settle around the 100-125 range. Maybe slightly less. We'll find out soon enough.
I don't have the chance to blind box again until the end of october when i probably will go to disneyland paris again, but by that time star wars series one would be gone. :/
otherwise i would blind box for him.

so I just bought a ghost obi on ebay and still plan to get a whole star wars case until the end of july, and if i get another ghost obi as the chaser i keep him as well and buy the normal chaser on ebay, if not the collection will be complete and i will be happy either way! XD