Snow White Mine Coaster Confirmed for FL

[jme]

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It's official folks. Announced on the Disney Parks Blog:


As with any project of this scale, we’ve also continued to look for additional ways to surprise and delight our guests and I think you’ll be pleased. One opportunity we’re especially excited about is the chance to tell Snow White’s story in a fresh new way. The Seven Dwarfs Mine Train will take you on a rollicking, musical ride into the mine “where a million diamonds shine.” The coaster will feature a first-of-its kind ride system with a train of ride vehicles that swing back and forth as they whisk along the track. The journey will be accompanied by music from the classic Disney film and animated figures of Snow White and the Dwarfs.

Our other Disney princesses will also be getting a new home (actually, they prefer to call it a castle) in the all new Princess Fairytale Hall. Aurora, Cinderella and other Disney princesses, such as Tiana and Rapunzel, will greet you in an elegant royal court at the location where Snow White’s Scary Adventures is today. This new experience will be in place of some of the earlier plans we shared regarding opportunities to interact with your favorite princesses.

Full story with other tidbits here:
http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/01/update-on-new-fantasyland-at-magic-kingdom-park

[kcmesserole]

Oh neat! I can't wait till its done to see the end project!

[Reginald1875]

So they are taking out Snow White's Scary Adventures?

[jme]

Yes, Scary Adventures is out.

In summary the changes to the original plan are:
Aurora's and Cinderella's personal meet & greet sites are scrapped. In their place (physically) will be the new mine coaster.
Scary Adventures is being closed, turned into a Princess meet & greet.
Tinkerbell's pixie hollow is scrapped, Tink & co. moving to EPCOT
What many assumed would be Casey Jr.s Circus Train overhaul of Barnstormer (but was never official) is now Goofy as The Great Goofini

Overall I think this is a more well rounded Fantasyland Expansion.

I made a quick comparison image from the original concept to todays:
http://reltru.com/bin/files/124a407250ea.gif


You'll notice another change I didn't mention above because they didn't say but I can't help but notice...
Toon Town tents are still in place? Maybe it's not moving?

[Stitch626]

So they are taking out Snow White's Scary Adventures?

That seems to be the idea but I'm sure they won't until the new area is completed because they will be out 1 ride/attraction if they did that

[Incredible]

This is exciting!!! I so can't wait to see everything when it is finished. It saddens me though that Snow White's Scary Adventure is going away. :(

[Reginald1875]

Wow! I actually enjoy Snow White's Scary Adventures. Hopefully it is not just a complete removal, but they move it over by the new mine train coaster. Or re-add it if they have later plans.

[HitchHikingGhostFangirl]

Wow! I actually enjoy Snow White's Scary Adventures. Hopefully it is not just a complete removal, but they move it over by the new mine train coaster. Or re-add it if they have later plans.

No, it seems like it's a complete removal. And I doubt they'll move it. It's not as popular as say, Dumbo.

I'm :cry: about no Pixie Hollow. (I'm probably the only one though)

[MaxGoof]

I don't really understand where they're planning to put Tinkerbell and Pixie Hollow at EPCOT? What are they planning to take away...?

[Allotes]

No, it seems like it's a complete removal. And I doubt they'll move it. It's not as popular as say, Dumbo.

I'm :cry: about no Pixie Hollow. (I'm probably the only one though)

I doubt you're the only one. I'm pretty sure the wife is gonna be super :mad:

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I don't really understand where they're planning to put Tinkerbell and Pixie Hollow at EPCOT? What are they planning to take away...?

I don't think Pixie Hollow will be a permanent fixture at Epcot. It seems Tink and friends will make a seasonal appearance for the F&G Festival.




On another note, does a mod want to merge this with the existing Fantasyland Expansion thread?

[disneyobsessed808]

I am actually really excited for this. I'm glad that WDW is getting an entirely new attraction. :happy: In fact, I really didn't even know that WDW was planning to do an all new attraction for WDW. I thought it was just going to be the Little Mermaid ride, bigger Dumbo and more meet-and-greets. The meet-and-greets are fine, but it seems like that's all they were falling back on. (And I personally think Pixie Hollow at DLR is out of place).

The Disney Blog was quoted a few weeks ago in the NY Times about the new HP area at Islands of Adventure, and that Disney might need to respond with more than just a revamped character area. It's great to see that Disney is stepping it up and adding more ride based attractions. It will be sad to see Snow White's Scary adventures go at WDW, but just more reason for east coasters to visit DLR.

[Reginald1875]

The Disney Blog was quoted a few weeks ago in the NY Times about the new HP area at Islands of Adventure, and that Disney might need to respond with more than just a revamped character area. It's great to see that Disney is stepping it up and adding more ride based attractions. It will be sad to see Snow White's Scary adventures go at WDW, but just more reason for east coasters to visit DLR.

Very true, but a bit disappointing since WDW does tell the better and longer story of the movie.

[disneyobsessed808]

Very true, but a bit disappointing since WDW does tell the better and longer story of the movie.

hmmm. i didn't go on that ride when i was at wdw in 2007. i guess i need to check it out again. to the internet (or youtube)!

[HitchHikingGhostFangirl]

I doubt you're the only one. I'm pretty sure the wife is gonna be super :mad:

I don't think Pixie Hollow will be a permanent fixture at Epcot. It seems Tink and friends will make a seasonal appearance for the F&G Festival.

On another note, does a mod want to merge this with the existing Fantasyland Expansion thread?

Oh I know I'm not alone. :cry:

A lot of people are not going to be happy if the faeries are only seasonal.

Nah, this'll be just for the new coaster :)

[minniemose35]

Can't wait for the new expansion. I'm sorry to see that Snow White's Scary Adventures is going though. I really like this attraction, but I'm sure chemnerd won't be sorry to see it go. This attraction has helped make some great memories over the years, in fact, chemnerd won't go on this one even to this day (15+ years later). :lol:

The mine train coaster sound like a great ride too. Hope it doesn't get scrapped in the future like some of the others.

[RickP83]

I don't really understand where they're planning to put Tinkerbell and Pixie Hollow at EPCOT? What are they planning to take away...?

I don't know exactly where they will put them. If they get placed in the World Showcase, I would assume England would be the place, but where? There is that little garden area in the back of England.

If they are put in Future World, I would assume they would be somewhere near the Land. It makes sense for them to be at EPCOT since that park focuses on the environment and they do have the Flower and Garden festival there every year. I'm just not sure where they will be going.

The other question is...will there be a full out Pixie Hollow? Or will it just be a meet and greet area like at the Magic Kingdom?

Rick

[jme]

Nah, theres not time for it to get scrapped at this point. They are saying the whole area will be done by the end of 2012, and theres clearly a LOT of major construction left to do (like, say, start building a whole new coaster ride, complete with detailed mine themes and snow whites cottage.) They will have to get started pretty soon on this to meet their deadlines. The Little Mermaid building and Gastons Tavern structures are up, but they still have to move Dumbo, add a 2nd one, build a tent, retheme a coaster, build a restaurant (and castle!), etc. over the next 22 months.

There's no room for them to back out of this one, plan something else, and get it in there in time.

[HitchHikingGhostFangirl]

Nah, theres not time for it to get scrapped at this point. They are saying the whole area will be done by the end of 2012, and theres clearly a LOT of major construction left to do (like, say, start building a whole new coaster ride, complete with detailed mine themes and snow whites cottage.) They will have to get started pretty soon on this to meet their deadlines. The Little Mermaid building and Gastons Tavern structures are up, but they still have to move Dumbo, add a 2nd one, build a tent, retheme a coaster, build a restaurant (and castle!), etc. over the next 22 months.

There's no room for them to back out of this one, plan something else, and get it in there in time.

Actually they're saying that it'll be finished in phases and the majority of it'll be done by 2013


The New Fantasyland will be constructed in phases with most new experiences open by 2013. We look forward to sharing more with you as our work progresses.

:)

[Phylers]

Re: the fairies, I saw this article in the Orlando Sentinel today:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/the-daily-disney/os-disney-fantasyland-expansion-20110118,0,4303622.story

Specifically, this part jumped out:


Gone entirely are earlier plans for a fairy-themed area that Disney had originally said was to be called "Pixie Hollow." Disney said it will instead build a greeting area for fairies inside its Disney's Hollywood Studios theme park.

I'm thinking both sources could be right. Tinker Bell and her crew have been increasing their presence at the Flower and Garden Fest every year for the past three or four, so it would make sense for them to play a larger part, but a permanent home might make more sense in Studios. Guess we'll have to await more info (or a correction from either source).

[notpennysboat]

Maybe it's just me but I don't care for the fairies. But I guess I'm not its target age either so ... :lol:

[minniemose35]

Maybe it's just me but I don't care for the fairies. But I guess I'm not its target age either so ... :lol:

:agree:I've never really liked the fairies anyway.

[jstras22]

Maybe it's just me but I don't care for the fairies. But I guess I'm not its target age either so ... :lol:

same here. i don't really like what they did with tinkerbell and the making the whole pixie hollow thing.

[Demeter]

Re: the fairies, I saw this article in the Orlando Sentinel today:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/the-daily-disney/os-disney-fantasyland-expansion-20110118,0,4303622.story

Specifically, this part jumped out:



I'm thinking both sources could be right. Tinker Bell and her crew have been increasing their presence at the Flower and Garden Fest every year for the past three or four, so it would make sense for them to play a larger part, but a permanent home might make more sense in Studios. Guess we'll have to await more info (or a correction from either source).

The Studios seem like a great place for Tink and friends. The first place I thought of was a retheming of the HISTK playground.

[Allotes]

The Studios seem like a great place for Tink and friends. The first place I thought of was a retheming of the HISTK playground.

Oooooohhhh. That would be a good repurposing. I personally think Epcot might be a better fit, but who knows? They could end up at AK by the time all is said and done.

[HitchHikingGhostFangirl]

Maybe it's just me but I don't care for the fairies. But I guess I'm not its target age either so ... :lol:

I'm not the target age either. but I :love: the faeries!

Anyways, lets keep this thread on talk about the roller coaster :)

[jstras22]

this roller coaster would probably be more of a kiddie coaster than an actual roller coaster, i'm assuming?

[HitchHikingGhostFangirl]

this roller coaster would probably be more of a kiddie coaster than an actual roller coaster, i'm assuming?

We don't know. I hope it's not. And don't forget they already have a kiddie coaster in the barnstormer (or whatever the new name is :lol:)

[jstras22]

We don't know. I hope it's not. And don't forget they already have a kiddie coaster in the barnstormer (or whatever the new name is :lol:)

that's true. but since the coaster is gonna be in fantasyland, i just can't see it being too intense. guess we'll see though!

[Scarletwebslingr]

This coaster is going to rule the world!

[jme]

During the press event one of the imagineers said something along the lines of Barnstormer/Great Goofini still being the "my first coaster" and this would be like a "my 2nd coaster" -- or at least thats what someone posted on the internet...:gossip:

I personally think it will be like Big Thunder Lite... a fast moving train, but more like PoTC level drops. I think the swaying carts will add to the thrill (maybe feeling like you might tip out, etc.) but otherwise it will be more fun than thrilling.

I also heard there would be a (albeit low) height restriction as well.

[jeffztt]

I sure hope they treat it more like a real coaster than Barnstormers. The one train system of Barnstormers makes it the slowest line other than Dumbo.

Personally I'm disappointed they are removing Snow White's Scary Adventures. I don't understand why they don't make more of this type of ride at WDW vs. less. Since it is basically a ride telling the story of a movie, maybe it will go to an empty sound stage in DHS eventually?

About Pixie Hollow, it seems the movie just didn't do as well as expected. I'm guessing that is why they are changing it. Plus, Tink really isn't a Princess and since Fantasyland is becoming more about Princess than Walt's original animated movies maybe it makes sense for the faeries to go to DHS plus be in Epcot for Flower and Garden. If permanent in Epcot, btw, there is a large unused area that would be a natural for a meet and greet in the same building the other character meet and greets are in...they would just need to theme it and since it faces the Land it could be a natural fit. Or, they could build an attraction in DHS, which would probably be even better.

[NaCler]

It is rumored that Tink is going to be taking over the Prince Caspian set at the Studios and that the Fairies will only make appearances during Flower and Garden Festival at EPCOT.

I like the thought of a mild thrill ride in Fantasyland. It's out-of-the-norm so to speak. It's also nice to hear that rumors can come true, as they have speculated about this coaster for many years. Now if we could only get that Monsters Inc. coaster in Hollywood Studios... :D

[Phylers]

It is rumored that Tink is going to be taking over the Prince Caspian set at the Studios and that the Fairies will only make appearances during Flower and Garden Festival at EPCOT.

I like the thought of a mild thrill ride in Fantasyland. It's out-of-the-norm so to speak. It's also nice to hear that rumors can come true, as they have speculated about this coaster for many years. Now if we could only get that Monsters Inc. coaster in Hollywood Studios... :D

I sure hope that rumor is true! They need something to put in that area in Studios, and the Narnia exhibit just didn't make sense considering how poor that franchise turned out. I still remember how much we laughed when it had an actual line on New Year's Eve!

[psu4glory]

i'm VERY excited for this expansion...and i like the new plans better than the previous. my girls will be 3 and 4 once this is all said and done - perfect ages to enjoy all of the new additions!

i think that the advent of this new Snow White attraction was necessary from disney, b/c i DO believe that this expansion is a direct response to the Wizarding World at US, and the old expansion plans really only introduced a single new attraction to the park - the Little Mermaid ride. all of the new princess meet and greets...the new restaurant...a revamped barnstormer, dumbo and pixie hollow...they all pretty much added up to a case of slapping a new coat of paint on an old house.

i know that a Snow White attraction already exists! but this version sounds plenty different enough from the current version that i'd consider it a brand new attraction that's being added to the mix...

[Anders Limpar]

I think this is a much better use of the land and money. The previous incarnation was way too girl-centric as has been noted many times previously. I think its interesting that Little Mermaid building is almost the exact same shape as the old 20,000 Leagues building.

[HT_NSU]

I'm so excited about this! :happy:

[DizVinyl]

Very cool!

[Zero626]

I'm looking forward to this ride a lot, but I still don't know how I feel about replacing Scary Adventure...

[SirScott99]

Here we go guys:

http://www.discussionkingdom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1396

My dad stumbled upon this the other night. I think the layout given in that first post looks pretty awesome. I was massively bummed when hearing about the Old New Fantasyland in that it would be geared more toward little girls (ages like 5-10 or something). I was more excited a few years ago when they were coming up with the idea for Villain Mountain. But that's neither here nor there. I also heard they are moving Barnstormer BACK 20 feet and if you think about it, that's a lot for a ride of any side. I'm curious to see how this all plays out. I have some pictures from my trip in December of the construction progress. I'll put them up sometime in the next few days

[Wormbrnr]

I'm excited about it for sure. By the looks like the diagram in SirScott's post, it looks like it will be a very long ride.

[Sabaku]

This sounds awesome I love the idea of looking forward to something new. Its awesome to see what new technology Disney has come up with.

[disneyguru]

cool thanks for the info!

[HawaiiFiveBro]

So excited for this!! I've never been a huge fan of the current Snow White ride, so I'm hoping I will enjoy this one much more.

[DuckTales]

I hate to see SWSA removed, but at least there will be a new ride based on the movie. It's nice to see the parks still putting emphasis on the classics (even if I'm not really a rollercoaster person).

[jflores]

Snow Whites Scary Adventures always had a great subtle way of being creepy. Creepier than the huanted mansion in my opinion, but this new ride sounds like it will be a really innovative and exciting attraction.

[2old4toys]

I don't really understand where they're planning to put Tinkerbell and Pixie Hollow at EPCOT? What are they planning to take away...?

It would be easy to tie it into some sort of environmental statement.

[disney5150]

we generally hate when they get rid of things, but this is a huge step forward vs. the old ride.

[Brava_Centauri]

The only thing I hope they preserve from Snow White's Scary Adventures is the waving Dopey. I don't see how they wouldn't be able to fit this in to the new ride and it would be a nice tribute to the former attraction.

[TheTrixRabbit]

Wow, this ride sounds pretty awesome. Hope DLR gets somethign like this.

[sueker]

It's wonderful anytime there is something new. Something different to ride or watch for those who go often....can't wait.

[princesslele44]

This sounds great, can't wait!!!

[drkutz]

Sounds awesome. I think this mine train ride will be a little more mild then BTMRR but it should still be a big hit with everyone. RR at DHS may not be the tallest or fastest coaster, but the music and everything just puts it over the top. I would take that over many of other coasters any day of the week.

As far as SWSA, I will miss it, but it is progress...

[Lolo]

This new ride seems like it will be good.... when all the construction is done I will have to make another trip to WDW.

[MikeOMatichead]

Agreed I'm really excited for the new expansion. Planning to go back in 2014 to see all the new attractions.

[PinkCow]

Woah! This is what I get for not keeping up with Disney news... just now heard about this... very exciting!

[boochamp]

SWEET! I haven't been to WDW since 2000!!! What other changes have happened since then?

[Joy_C]

Sounds exciting!!! I wonder when it will happen?

[jbuds1]

I wish that Disneyland had more room to build in Fantasyland, I like to go to Disney World to see all these wonderful additions they are adding to the park.

[jmp]

This was such a smart move. I know that some people have been disappointed with the fact that this is not looking to be an "E" ticket," but the thing is, Fantasyland doesn't need an "E." While I don't disagree that MK needs a new "E" ticket, it should go in the plot behind Adventureland or Frontier Land in an expansion of one of those. Fantasyland with a E ticket would only be more congested, thus negating the entire purpose of this expansion. This ride will definitely be fun and fresh and provide something new, while still fitting nicely in the area. There was a post on the WDW website today (that was quickly removed) giving a little more info about this ride. It seems that the cars will react to the track in a way that has never been seen before - or at least that's what they're saying. I can't wait.

[mepierce01]

This was such a smart move. I know that some people have been disappointed with the fact that this is not looking to be an "E" ticket," but the thing is, Fantasyland doesn't need an "E." While I don't disagree that MK needs a new "E" ticket, it should go in the plot behind Adventureland or Frontier Land in an expansion of one of those. Fantasyland with a E ticket would only be more congested, thus negating the entire purpose of this expansion. This ride will definitely be fun and fresh and provide something new, while still fitting nicely in the area. There was a post on the WDW website today (that was quickly removed) giving a little more info about this ride. It seems that the cars will react to the track in a way that has never been seen before - or at least that's what they're saying. I can't wait.

I'm not entirely sold that it's not going to be an E ticket attraction. At the D23 convention a few weeks ago, the lead imagineer on this project gave a detailed look at it, and in his words it's supposed to fit somewhere between Thunder Mtn and Space Mtn. It'll have two lift hills and won't be a "kiddy coaster" a la Goofy's Barnstormer. Plus the fact that it's supposed to be the first coaster in the world to feature the swaying car feature, and the theming is supposed to be very detailed with quite a few animatronic figures, I think it adds up to a pretty big deal. Anything that draws comparisons to any of MK's mountains is likely to end up as an E ticket quality attraction, at least in my book.

[jmp]

I'm not entirely sold that it's not going to be an E ticket attraction. At the D23 convention a few weeks ago, the lead imagineer on this project gave a detailed look at it, and in his words it's supposed to fit somewhere between Thunder Mtn and Space Mtn. It'll have two lift hills and won't be a "kiddy coaster" a la Goofy's Barnstormer. Plus the fact that it's supposed to be the first coaster in the world to feature the swaying car feature, and the theming is supposed to be very detailed with quite a few animatronic figures, I think it adds up to a pretty big deal. Anything that draws comparisons to any of MK's mountains is likely to end up as an E ticket quality attraction, at least in my book.

Oh wow thanks for the info. I haven't been following stuff very closely since the convention due to a very crazy schedule - but that is definitely different than the reports I'd been hearing prior to the convention. I knew about the cars but I was unaware of the fitting between Thunder and Space mountains comment. Well, regardless, color me excited. I can't wait. Thanks for the update!

[mepierce01]

Oh wow thanks for the info. I haven't been following stuff very closely since the convention due to a very crazy schedule - but that is definitely different than the reports I'd been hearing prior to the convention. I knew about the cars but I was unaware of the fitting between Thunder and Space mountains comment. Well, regardless, color me excited. I can't wait. Thanks for the update!

Yeah, if I hadn't been there to hear him talk about it, I'd be feeling the same way you were. I figured it would be a neat little ride, but I thought calling it a roller coaster was a bit of an exaggeration. But after that little presentation, he sold me on the idea that this isn't going to just be for kids, and I got a whole lot more excited about it too. He also talked about other facets of New Fantasyland, and how the whole idea is to make it appeal to a broader audience, including boys and adults, which I think is great if they can achieve that. I never thought I'd see the day that young boys and grown men would want to do a meet-and-greet with a Disney Princess, but according to him, that is exactly what they're going for with the whole meet-n-greet experience with Belle inside Maurice's Cottage. Color me amazed if they can pull that off!

[disneyobsessed808]

I wish that Disneyland had more room to build in Fantasyland, I like to go to Disney World to see all these wonderful additions they are adding to the park.

there are actually quite a few areas for expansion around fantasyland, and there have been some rumors about possible expansions or at least disneyland execs are thinking about it. there's the princess fantasy faire area, the festival area (where the potc4 preview is now), the little "lake" area next to the matterhorn and iasw.

[jmp]

. I never thought I'd see the day that young boys and grown men would want to do a meet-and-greet with a Disney Princess, but according to him, that is exactly what they're going for with the whole meet-n-greet experience with Belle inside Maurice's Cottage. Color me amazed if they can pull that off!

Yeah, from what I've heard this looks to be something like a 40 minute long show/m&g. I'll definitely be checking it out. I think this could be a major sleeper attraction. I mean, if you go to the Wizarding World of HP, Olivander's wand shop always has a 40 min. + line. If that's any indication of how people are receiving these new interactive show/m&gs, this could be huge.

[meghalemily]

I'm getting married that year, do you think people would be upset if I ditch the wedding so that we can afford to go to the unveiling of the new Fantasyland? Oh well

[lindsey1128]

Anyone know how the construction is coming along (if it's been started) and what date they're saying now for an opening date? I may be in WDW during January 2013 and am really hoping this and the Ariel ride are open.

[SirScott99]

Anyone know how the construction is coming along (if it's been started) and what date they're saying now for an opening date? I may be in WDW during January 2013 and am really hoping this and the Ariel ride are open.

As of Sept 4 it looks pretty damn good. I'll post some pictures up here of the new fantasyland one of these days

[Romo]

As of Sept 4 it looks pretty damn good. I'll post some pictures up here of the new fantasyland one of these days

Please do. I was there in August and it looked like they had already had a decent start on everything. I can't wait for the Beast's castle.

[garyb3529]

Coming along really well. You can see some of the Princess castles. Also had alot of pics on what was going on in Fantasy Land. Saw a dinning with Belle and Beast.

[Crglrsn]

We were just there in mid-September and the poor Snow White ride was so empty. We rode the "ride" but it clearly needs to be replaced ASAP. Hope it's something exciting. The whole area looked busy with construction. Hopefully it'll be done by our next trip (TBD). :)

[Samjive]

It saddens me though that Snow White's Scary Adventure is going away.

I agree. While I think the changes are neat (and I am looking forward to the new rides) I will miss the original ride. I like the fact that Disney is constantly evolving but I also cry a little when a ride I love gets altered or removed altogether.

[Mad Hatter01]

I'm so excited for this ride. I love Snow White and I think it's going to be awesome!!!

[Vinyl Chaser]

So what kinda coaster we talking bout here? like a rockin roller coaster? a barnstormer? or a mr toads wild ride?

As for the pixies, im kinda ok with them not being in new fantasyland, and it would make more sense to have them in epcot expecially cuz they are growing in popularity at the flower fest.

[SirScott99]

So what kinda coaster we talking bout here? like a rockin roller coaster? a barnstormer? or a mr toads wild ride?

We're talking about something that hasn't been done before. It's exactly what it sounds like which is a mine coaster. You're car will actually rock back and fourth as you go through the mine I guess like a "mouse roller coaster" or something. That's what I've heard anyway but don't know if it's true or not

[Vinyl Chaser]

We're talking about something that hasn't been done before. It's exactly what it sounds like which is a mine coaster. You're car will actually rock back and fourth as you go through the mine I guess like a "mouse roller coaster" or something. That's what I've heard anyway but don't know if it's true or not


I ment intensity wise, is it gonna rival Space and thunder?

[SirScott99]

I ment intensity wise, is it gonna rival Space and thunder?

I'm not sure if that's been discussed yet as I haven't seen any reports. I do know that it won't open until the second phase that WILL NOT be opening next year. I think that's what I heard so we still have plenty of time before this opens

[Vinyl Chaser]

I'm not sure if that's been discussed yet as I haven't seen any reports. I do know that it won't open until the second phase that WILL NOT be opening next year. I think that's what I heard so we still have plenty of time before this opens

Dang... i cant wait to ride it though, theyre finally makin fantasy land more attractive to the older crowd with stuff like this =D

[SirScott99]

Dang... i cant wait to ride it though, theyre finally makin fantasy land more attractive to the older crowd with stuff like this =D

Yeah but besides this and the Great Goofini, there's nothing else for the "older crowd" besides the old stuff that's still there

[Vinyl Chaser]

i dunno, i think with the addition of the castles, the little mermaid ride and the new resturants fantasyland is gonna be alot mroe adult orientated, i mean im really lookin foreward to this change and i havnt made fantasyland my priority in years =D (since philarmagic)

[SirScott99]

Well the mermaid ride is the same exact one as in california and is just a regular ride kind of like nemo where it takes you through the story so there's nothing adult about that

[Vinyl Chaser]

but its still fun, not to mention its gonna be awsome to see all the new stuff, almost like goin to a new park lol

[Soapdish83]

I dont understand, why two Dumbo's?

[SirScott99]

I dont understand, why two Dumbo's?

Why not?

[mariemb]

I believe the reason for the 2 Dumbo's is the long wait times and lines for only 1 Dumbo ride. I know that for me I have NEVER rode the Dumbo ride. Not because of a line but my first visit to Disney I was in first grade and as I got older that was not a priority for me to ride. Now I have kids of my own and they are 5 and 4 and that ride is a must see. One of my son's favorite movies is Dumbo so that attraction is a must do.

[Vinyl Chaser]

I dont understand, why two Dumbo's?

To speed up wait times, plus if im understanding correctly, they are upgrading them a little with better controls and stuff, makes the ride a bit more fun =D

[rwlever]

what are the plans for the current site of Snow White? Pooh?

[Vinyl Chaser]

according to rumors, snow white is proly gonna be turned into something else... but pooh is here to stay they just did all those renovations on the interactive que

[floridagator818]

what are the plans for the current site of Snow White? Pooh?

Snow White is turning into a Princess meet and greet, I believe.

[rwlever]

I thought the Meet and Greet was supposed to be inside or next to Beast Castle? oh well. It'll be new, which is good given the obvious signs of age in the MK

[figgyfan]

Anxiously awaiting the FL expansion, seems like this has been in progress for a decade now! It will surely add some fresh blood to MK.

[docj44]

I have only seen Pixie hollow at EPCOT when they have the Flower and Garden Festival...its actually kind of cool but I don't know those characters well