Holidays around the world 2010 Vinylmation + New non-tin packaging!

[RMThompson]

On the Disney Parks Blog:

http://parksandresorts.wdpromedia.com/media/disneyparks/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/box000002SMALL.jpg


Last year, everything was presented in metal tins with figures wrapped in foil bags (why I am not sure). Thomas created new functional packaging that allows guests to display their figures.
“When I visited Epcot last year, I had a difficult time finding the holiday figure as the tin got lost among other merchandise items,” continued Thomas. “Eventually I located it and realized that there wasn’t a need for the tin. Guests already knew what was inside. So, we dropped the tin in favor of an open window box to better showcase the figure. The other change which I like is the base of the box can now be used as a stage for the figure.”

[drudawg]

Latest post by Steven Miller covers all the holiday figures for this year, including the Holidays Around the Word at Epcot where they are scrapping the tin in favor of a open window box that can be displayed. Nice read.

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2010/11/a-vinylmation-holiday-celebration/

[drudawg]

Cool, I just posted this in the Holiday's section... so either there or here, mods can remove mine.

[Bethan]

Thanks for this. The packaging is uhhhhh interesting!

[RMThompson]

Thanks for this. The packaging is uhhhhh interesting!

Yeah, good word for it.

I am afraid it won't go great on my shelves, but I'll figure it out since I am only interested in the Toy Soldier from the Holiday Boxes.

I guess we gotta start calling them boxes instead of tins. Boo. lol

[Ghost Host]

Yeah, good word for it.

I am afraid it won't go great on my shelves, but I'll figure it out since I am only interested in the Toy Soldier from the Holiday Boxes.

I guess we gotta start calling them boxes instead of tins. Boo. lol

I think in this case, this is a good idea. I think you will get more impulse buys at Christmas from these because non-collectors can see what's in the box. They had so many left over from last year. Pretty good strategy if you ask me.

I don't want them to get rid of all tins, but I understand in this situation.

[Spiffie]

While I like the idea of the bottom serving as some sort of stand, I don't like that "box". I like the tins better. If you wanted to leave it in that "box", you can't see it very well in there.

Just my opinion!

[kcmesserole]

Its a neat idea, but I really like the tins. :(

I hope they don't remove all of them and make them like that one. I would not display my vn with the box.

[Scarletwebslingr]

It'll probably cost the same as a tin.

[vinylmom]

I really love the tins, some of my most favorite vinyls sit atop their tins in my curio. I wish they did do this. I hope this isnt a trend. I do not like the stage idea, I wouldnt do that.

[panny]

Awesome! The new box looks interesting, though there's something about the tins that I still really like.

[gochmaster]

Thxs for the link drudawg. Its nice to see them all together. I love the reindeer 9"...

[GQbed]

We knew this day was coming. I hate seeing the tins go. They were another great showcase of art and made the whole collectible feel more valuable/substantial. This packaging reminds me of toys found at Target, not collectibles.

[Vinylmickey]

I like the tins! Last year they had a display of the vinyl with the tin next to it. You could easly see what you where getting. The Osborne light sold out quickly last year. The others took much longer.

[manda653]

Yeah I'm not really liking that new packaging....Tins are way better!

[peppermint]

The box is just okay. But the tins added a special bonus. I know that I display my vinyls on top of the tin. I probably won't even keep the box. I hope disney rethinks this and brings back tins for special releases.

[disneyaddict]

Another must have vinyl, really like it and enjoy going to the candlelight procession most every year. Not a big fan of the new box but it will help with my over crowded shelves. I like displaying the tins too but really running out of space so I quess Disney has helped me because I won't be displaying the box.

[Allotes]

I want that reindeer!

Are all of the holiday exclusives in these boxes this year, or just the Epcot one? They aren't really clear about that yet. Guess we'll just have to wait until Monday.

[drudawg]

Yeah, that reinder just looks hilarious with those crazy eyes!

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That purple clear box packaging looks cardboard... I don't know anyone else, but I like the tins. They take up more room, but they are cool.

[jibbajab12]

Translation - boxes are cheaper to make than the tins. I don't believe the line "nobody knew what was in the tins". Ummm, hello? Nobody knows what's in the normal series blind boxes but you feel the need to display a set behind on the case and in a plastic box to show them off. Why not do the same thing you do with pins and wherever you sell these tins, have a "what's new" display box? Put everything "new" in there and also what's "in-stock" as well. That will show off what's inside the tin and people will know what they're purchasing.

I'm reminded of Christmas Vacation and the line "All the lousy ways to save a buck!!"

[KJM72]

I like the base, but tins are still a bit cooler. And I think the design of the new vinyl is a little... :yawn:

Well, I mean, compared to last year's. Last year's was bright and inviting, and the tin contained soooooo much detail.

[WDWgirl]

I agree with everybody. I'm sad to see the tins go.

I like the Holidays around the World at Epcot figure, but am sad to see the tins go.

[Dozy]

I definitely prefered the tins, it was just that little bit extra about it. The fact that they were as well designed as the vinyl's, that you could use them for display purposes , and that there were even designs inside the tins. I don't mind this new packaging, probably makes it a little bit cheaper to receive through the post, although I won't be using it as a stand. If it came with a tin I probably be more inclined to buy it, but because it doesn't I won't be buying it.

[minniemose35]

I prefer the tins. They work very well as a stand for the vinyl. This box idea looks a little strange. I guess I'll have to see one for myself to know how I really feel about it.

Hope the tins aren't gone forever.

[mshalloween]

I really like the tins. I display them with the vinyls they once had inside! That being said, I'm pretty intrigued by this new box design. I wish that it wasn't replacing a tin; however, I'm still excited to see what it's like in person.

[snoboardp]

i do like the idea of having part of the box as a stand. It's just a little bland for my tastes in this example. (plus i dont like the vinyl design). I'm sure if pulled off correctly we wouldnt miss the tins as much. That being said, I do think the Tins are a much nicer touch.

[Story]

Translation - boxes are cheaper to make than the tins. I don't believe the line "nobody knew what was in the tins". Ummm, hello? Nobody knows what's in the normal series blind boxes but you feel the need to display a set behind on the case and in a plastic box to show them off. Why not do the same thing you do with pins and wherever you sell these tins, have a "what's new" display box? Put everything "new" in there and also what's "in-stock" as well. That will show off what's inside the tin and people will know what they're purchasing.

I'm reminded of Christmas Vacation and the line "All the lousy ways to save a buck!!"

:agree: Just Disney trying to justify keeping the high "tin" price for vinyls while keeping it cheap for them by still packaging them in boxes. Another disappointment from the Vinylmation team.

[magic61983]

Sad to see the tin's go but it's a way to cut costs like story said. It's still a nice Vinyl non the less.

[Soulchild]

The new packaging is meh. They could have done better, I almost prefer the dome packaging of the combo packs. I do like the thought of having the vinyl be displayable in the box, I still keep my Wall-e and Eve in their box because I like the look of it, but the Epcot Holidays box is really plain. Plus I'm not that big a fan of the vinyl design either. They need to open up the window front part so you can see more of the vinyl, kind of like the other window boxes (Animal Kingdom and NBC). I hope the Soldier and Osbourne boxes are more decorative.

[Phylers]

I'm also a big fan of the tins (the first VM I bought was the tinned Candy Corn), and I'm holding out hope that only the Epcot figure will be in the window box. Considering the Holidays Around the Figure was the one that stuck around the longest last year, I see the need to change something, but the MVMCP and Osborne Spectacle tins both did well (and were both amazing!).

More on topic though, I do like the design of this year's Holidays Around the World VM. I was on the fence with last year's, as nothing about it really connected to Epcot for me, but I love that they incorporated the showpiece of the Candlelight Processional into this year's. I could take or leave the actual Candlelight show, but it's really the central bit of Epcot's holiday presentation. Plus, my Mom loves it. Ergo, Disney has provided me with an easy gift. :D

The more I think about it, the more I like this design. As the Christmas tree bit of the choir depicted on the vinyl is made up of CMs, I'm sure this will be a must-have for any of those participants, not to mention a must-have for any of the visiting choirs that make up the flanks. On the whole, it's a great design both for the design itself and for the marketing possibilities!

[Kungaloosh]

I doubt this will be priced lower even with the lacking tin. It's a nice design, lets hope it doesn't last as long as the 2009 one.

[Layensid71]

very cool, i like this better then the tins

[RMThompson]

:agree: Just Disney trying to justify keeping the high "tin" price for vinyls while keeping it cheap for them by still packaging them in boxes. Another disappointment from the Vinylmation team.

I don't understand why some people even collect Vinylmations if you think that the "TEAM" is out to get you.

This is clearly a response to the lack of the tin sales last year. If you were in any of their stores when these were on sale you heard MANY customers say "What do they look like inside?". Not EVERYONE buys these at D-street with displays. It was a common complaint.

This solves the issue of the customer being able to see the Vinyl inside while still giving some additional packaging. Sure these aren't as attractive, I'd rather have a tin myself, but I totally understand why they did them, and I don't think it's purely monetary.

[tigger for 4]

well they can have one out on display that shows what is in the "tin" and that being said is in all the "tins" so that solves that. I do like this vinyl but I want my tins back too. the stand is a nice idea but has to go. boo, boo, boo, Disney bad idea. Just my two cents.

[disneyobsessed808]

Are all of the holiday exclusives in these boxes this year, or just the Epcot one? They aren't really clear about that yet. Guess we'll just have to wait until Monday.

I was wondering the same.

I really find it amusing that they are trying to sell this idea that these are preferable to the tin because of aesthetic reasons, though I'm guessing the biggest factor was that tins are more expensive to produce :\

[vandeetz]

I really like the new designs but hate the packaging!! the tins were great, the art on and in them was fantastic and the figures are easily displayed on top of the tin and it looks great!!

[DizVinyl]

Translation - boxes are cheaper to make than the tins. I don't believe the line "nobody knew what was in the tins". Ummm, hello? Nobody knows what's in the normal series blind boxes but you feel the need to display a set behind on the case and in a plastic box to show them off. Why not do the same thing you do with pins and wherever you sell these tins, have a "what's new" display box? Put everything "new" in there and also what's "in-stock" as well. That will show off what's inside the tin and people will know what they're purchasing.

I'm reminded of Christmas Vacation and the line "All the lousy ways to save a buck!!"

:agree:
Why "mess" with a good thing? Disney is changing too much lately IMHO - No Tins/Now Boxes, $12.95 Price, Duffy Bear Design... I'm afraid of what's next! I love this collection, but am not loving what it's becoming.

[1rocky]

the tins were really nice but i like the idea of how you can use the base for the vinyl.:thumbsup:
but no without the tn i need to find another storage solution for all my carrds:lol::lol:

[mshalloween]

the tins were really nice but i like the idea of how you can use the base for the vinyl.:thumbsup:
but no without the tn i need to find another storage solution for all my carrds:lol::lol:

Haha, that's how I store my cards too! Good point!

[Return_of_Phos]

the tins were really nice but i like the idea of how you can use the base for the vinyl.:thumbsup:
but no without the tn i need to find another storage solution for all my carrds:lol::lol:

You won't have to worry in the future b/c remember Disney also plans of doing away with the artist cards :thumbsup:

[disneyobsessed808]

I don't understand why some people even collect Vinylmations if you think that the "TEAM" is out to get you.

This is clearly a response to the lack of the tin sales last year. If you were in any of their stores when these were on sale you heard MANY customers say "What do they look like inside?". Not EVERYONE buys these at D-street with displays. It was a common complaint.

This solves the issue of the customer being able to see the Vinyl inside while still giving some additional packaging. Sure these aren't as attractive, I'd rather have a tin myself, but I totally understand why they did them, and I don't think it's purely monetary.

Part of being a fan is often taking the good with the bad. I don't think Disney is perfect by any means - often they exploit other cultures, are sexist, are too restrictive to their employees, and so on; however, I am able to compartmentalize those feelings because I enjoy going to Disney parks. Similarly, I don't think that being aware and skeptical of Disney would stop people from being collectors. I collect vinylmation because I enjoy the figures and their aesthetic, not necessarily the corporate strategies behind them.

I think if the change was truly about the packaging and only that, why not price them the same as the NBC vinyls. :shrug: In a way, like most companies, they have already "gotten" us because we are all probably still going to buy. After all getting rid of the tins is a way for more people to buy them and a cheaper way to package them as well. It helps Disney's bottom line in two ways.

The problem of guests being able to see what was inside could be handled in a number of different ways that still allows for the tins. The Mr. Toad tin had the figure in a clear plastic bag - use that instead of the foil. Let people just open up the top to see what was inside. Or, they could simply set up a display next to the tins that shows both the tin and the figure, much like they have next to all the blind box cases. I think the alternative they came to is just not nearly as appealing. I'd almost rather have a regular, non-window box, like the marathon vinyls.

The problem I find is that I think it's just rather deceptive for them to say that the packaging change is mainly about how they are displayed for customers (much like the fact that they never responded to simple questions about pricing for the Park 5s). At the end of the day, Disney is a company out to make profits so I understand this move, even though I am annoyed by it.

[RMThompson]

Part of being a fan is often taking the good with the bad. I don't think Disney is perfect by any means - often they exploit other cultures, are sexist, are too restrictive to their employees, and so on; however, I am able to compartmentalize those feelings because I enjoy going to Disney parks. Similarly, I don't think that being aware and skeptical of Disney would stop people from being collectors. I collect vinylmation because I enjoy the figures and their aesthetic, not necessarily the corporate strategies behind them.

I think if the change was truly about the packaging and only that, why not price them the same as the NBC vinyls. :shrug: In a way, like most companies, they have already "gotten" us because we are all probably still going to buy. After all getting rid of the tins is a way for more people to buy them and a cheaper way to package them as well. It helps Disney's bottom line in two ways.

The problem of guests being able to see what was inside could be handled in a number of different ways that still allows for the tins. The Mr. Toad tin had the figure in a clear plastic bag - use that instead of the foil. Let people just open up the top to see what was inside. Or, they could simply set up a display next to the tins that shows both the tin and the figure, much like they have next to all the blind box cases. I think the alternative they came to is just not nearly as appealing. I'd almost rather have a regular, non-window box, like the marathon vinyls.

The problem I find is that I think it's just rather deceptive for them to say that the packaging change is mainly about how they are displayed for customers (much like the fact that they never responded to simple questions about pricing for the Park 5s). At the end of the day, Disney is a company out to make profits so I understand this move, even though I am annoyed by it.

Yeah I agree with this, I just don't understand why people think they are "out to get us"? Ever since the Park 5 thing I get this anti-Disney vibe coming from a lot of the people here.

Some points that should be remembered:

1. Vinylmation is new. Prices, paints, packaging and problems are all going to change, ebb and flow.
2. The artists probably have VERY little to do with the day-to-day decisions that are made by Disney. I know for a fact that it was a "Higherup" that made the decision to nix the planned Muppets series 1 9 inchers for example.
3. Disney is in this for the profit; HOWEVER, keeping their customers happy has always been one of the core Disney beliefs for turning a profit. They wouldn't deliberately do something AGAINST their customer unless they knew it would in the end make them happy and turn a profit. For all we know the tins slow down production time, and the boxes will help keep product on the shelf on time. Surely they probably cost less than the tins, but if that was their SOLE motivation would just increase the price of the tins.

[jibbajab12]

My original post wasn't that I felt Disney was out to get us, I just don't like the reasoning behind some of the "excuses" we are given for their decisions. My thought was "Ok, if people don't know what's inside, put one out on display". They do it for every other series that is mystery box, why should these be any different. I read a few other peoe that have had the same thought. And if you can display a "What's New" section where you sell pins, why can't the same be done for vinyls? And that's exactly where they could display them.

[mamawantsvinyls]

RM, No one ever said that "Disney is out to get us." Well, one person did, who was that? Oh wait, right, it was you and you alone.

People can be upset with Disney execs and still love Disney as a whole. I will always call greed when I see it and this, yet again, is another case of the Greedies by Disney execs. No one has ever blamed the artists for the price hikes except for those very same execs you have been so quick to defend. These execs don't care about the core Disney value, they only care about the bottom line. And that is what is upsetting about everything that has been going down with VMs lately.

[RMThompson]

RM, No one ever said that "Disney is out to get us." Well, one person did, who was that? Oh wait, right, it was you and you alone.

People can be upset with Disney execs and still love Disney as a whole. I will always call greed when I see it and this, yet again, is another case of the Greedies by Disney execs. No one has ever blamed the artists for the price hikes except for those very same execs you have been so quick to defend. These execs don't care about the core Disney value, they only care about the bottom line. And that is what is upsetting about everything that has been going down with VMs lately.

No one came out and said it, I'm just saying that I feel like there is an anti-Vinylmation-team sentiment lately, when they say that the "Vinylmation Team" has made another mistake. I feel that the "team" means Steven Miller and the artists, and I REALLY don't think they have as much say in the prices as people think they do. I talk to several of these people on a personal level, and I know this kind of talk would effect them if they read it. They are GOOD people doing what they think hope is good work. It's not their fault if the bosses say they have to charge more. In addition some members here HAVE accused the artists of being behind the price increase. The best complaining that we can do is NOT to buy.

I don't see it as greed, I see it as a business move. It's necessary for reasons that aren't ENTIRELY based on profit.

HOWEVER - let me make a few things clear. First, I haven't defended anything. I said I TOO would prefer both a lower Vinylmation price, AND tins over boxes, but I disagree with the majority taking it personally.

[lock*shock*barrel]

I don't like this new box. I am a fan of the tins, and love to display my vinyls on top of the tins. I sure hope the new Spectacle of lights and very merry Christmas come in tins instead of this ugly box.

[mutt7000]

I haven't been collecting long enough to really care either way if they keep the tins or not. I do think they are nice but I don't use them in my display so it won't hurt to not get them anymore. Thanks 1rocky for the great idea on using the tins for storing the artist cards. And I agree that it makes sense for disney to cut out the tins to make more profit, i just wish it would also lower the price.

[Mouseman74]

While I really like the new designs for Holidays Around the World, Spectacle of Dancing Lights and Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party, I DO NOT :mad: like the new packaging. The tins have always been a favorite of mine and really added something special to the vinyls as I use them in my display. I will definitely NOT be displaying these "stages" as they just don't look to have any quality to them. Maybe if they were more "festive" and designed to match the vinyl somehow, but they just look really (and I hate to say it) cheap.

I would have rather that these just came window boxed like NBC or Big Eyes then to have that packaging. I really think if they had the boxes they would have come in would have looked so much better and then I could have displayed the box. Sad day. :pout:

[HitchHikingGhostFangirl]

While I really like the new designs for Holidays Around the World, Spectacle of Dancing Lights and Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party, I DO NOT :mad: like the new packaging. The tins have always been a favorite of mine and really added something special to the vinyls as I use them in my display. I will definitely NOT be displaying these "stages" as they just don't look to have any quality to them. Maybe if they were more "festive" and designed to match the vinyl somehow, but they just look really (and I hate to say it) cheap.

I would have rather that these just came window boxed like NBC or Big Eyes then to have that packaging. I really think if they had the boxes they would have come in would have looked so much better and then I could have displayed the box. Sad day. :pout:

:agree: Completely

Honestly, it's very likely I'll toss the boxes. I like displaying the tins since they're almost better than the vinyls.

:pout: It really is a sad day.

[Story]

My original post wasn't that I felt Disney was out to get us, I just don't like the reasoning behind some of the "excuses" we are given for their decisions.

Goodness that was all I was saying too! That they want to say this packaging is for the better and make up reasons why this is so rather than think of a better solution in order to keep the tins is ridiculous to me.

Ugh, I'm tired of people nit picking words around here- I'm not criticizing the ideas behind vinylmations or the people. I'm disappointed in the fact that aspects of the vinylmation concept (i.e. creative tins, affordable collectible) are suffering because of the almighty dollar. (Surprised? Absolutely not since this isn't a new move by Disney. Disappointed? Oh you betcha :lol:) So if anyone took my post as otherwise than I apologize.

(sigh. just. sigh.)


While I really like the new designs for Holidays Around the World, Spectacle of Dancing Lights and Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party, I DO NOT :mad: like the new packaging. The tins have always been a favorite of mine and really added something special to the vinyls as I use them in my display. I will definitely NOT be displaying these "stages" as they just don't look to have any quality to them. Maybe if they were more "festive" and designed to match the vinyl somehow, but they just look really (and I hate to say it) cheap.

I would have rather that these just came window boxed like NBC or Big Eyes then to have that packaging. I really think if they had the boxes they would have come in would have looked so much better and then I could have displayed the box. Sad day. :pout:

I totally agree. I'm still kind of hoping toy soldier and spectacle will be in tins (unless it's been confirmed that they have this packaging too) because I'm just not feeling paying 16.95 for a vinylmation that comes with a coolio cardboard stand. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/mellow.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[Phylers]

I totally agree. I'm still kind of hoping toy soldier and spectacle will be in tins (unless it's been confirmed that they have this packaging too) because I'm just not feeling paying 16.95 for a vinylmation that comes with a coolio cardboard stand. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/mellow.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

And like Coolio, let's hope that the cardboard box/stands have a short and unimpressive music career followed by some nonsensical turns in Hong Kong action movies before ultimately just going away. :thumbsup:

[HitchHikingGhostFangirl]

And like Coolio, let's hope that the cardboard box/stands have a short and unimpressive music career followed by some nonsensical turns in Hong Kong action movies before ultimately just going away. :thumbsup:

If I could "thank" you (which come on, most of us use it as a "like" button :lol:) for that even more I would.

...Oh wait, I can :lol:

[disneyobsessed808]

Yeah I agree with this, I just don't understand why people think they are "out to get us"? Ever since the Park 5 thing I get this anti-Disney vibe coming from a lot of the people here.

Some points that should be remembered:

1. Vinylmation is new. Prices, paints, packaging and problems are all going to change, ebb and flow.
2. The artists probably have VERY little to do with the day-to-day decisions that are made by Disney. I know for a fact that it was a "Higherup" that made the decision to nix the planned Muppets series 1 9 inchers for example.
3. Disney is in this for the profit; HOWEVER, keeping their customers happy has always been one of the core Disney beliefs for turning a profit. They wouldn't deliberately do something AGAINST their customer unless they knew it would in the end make them happy and turn a profit. For all we know the tins slow down production time, and the boxes will help keep product on the shelf on time. Surely they probably cost less than the tins, but if that was their SOLE motivation would just increase the price of the tins.

I totally understand what you're saying, but I also understand the anti-Disney vibe that is going around to some extent. I don't necessarily think the this anti vibe is directed toward the artists (or at least for the most part), but maybe toward the execs that are in charge of vinylmation. They can and do "manipulate" (yes, I'm using that word rather loosely) the costs and the buyer because they can. I don't necessarily think they are trying to keep customers happy as much as they are trying to keep customers tolerant.


No one came out and said it, I'm just saying that I feel like there is an anti-Vinylmation-team sentiment lately, when they say that the "Vinylmation Team" has made another mistake. I feel that the "team" means Steven Miller and the artists, and I REALLY don't think they have as much say in the prices as people think they do. I talk to several of these people on a personal level, and I know this kind of talk would effect them if they read it. They are GOOD people doing what they think hope is good work. It's not their fault if the bosses say they have to charge more. In addition some members here HAVE accused the artists of being behind the price increase. The best complaining that we can do is NOT to buy.

I don't see it as greed, I see it as a business move. It's necessary for reasons that aren't ENTIRELY based on profit.

HOWEVER - let me make a few things clear. First, I haven't defended anything. I said I TOO would prefer both a lower Vinylmation price, AND tins over boxes, but I disagree with the majority taking it personally.

I think we can all agree this new packaging is awful compared to the tins :rofl: And definitely the artists do a lot of good work and their deserve to be complimented, as I love the other two holiday 3" (I'm so-so about the Epcot around the world. )

[Soulchild]

I don't mind the fact that it's a paper box, I just wish the box were as decorative as the tin. Even the window boxes for Oh Mickey looked better. For me I don't really care about the material used for the packaging (tin, cardboard, glass, aluminium foil...) they just need to make it look nice. If they took same designs they used on the tins and put it on a cardboard box, I think there would be less negativity towards the new packaging. But not only do they take away the tins, they trade it for a big purple box?

I wonder if Sledge could come up with something for these like he did with his 9" custom boxes...

[mshalloween]

lol I feel like I'm the only one who potentially likes this box :rofl: :rofl: I really can't say positively that I don't like it until I have it in my hands. I'm sure I'd still prefer a tin, though.

[RMThompson]

lol I feel like I'm the only one who potentially likes this box :rofl: :rofl: I really can't say positively that I don't like it until I have it in my hands. I'm sure I'd still prefer a tin, though.

This is how I feel.

[WebBetty]

I may have missed it :-X but when is this figure going to be released?

[Allotes]

I may have missed it :-X but when is this figure going to be released?

I don't think they've said yet.

[swtkatydid7]

I wish they came in a tin. I am assuming since it's no longer a tin, they won't cost $16.95 then, but then again, Disney can do what they want, so I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed, but from what I read it doesn't sound too promising. =O

[Bethan]

Holidays around the world kicks off on Nov 26th, so I assume (and hope and pray) that they will be out then! We leave on the 27th so it would be perfect!

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Oh, Steven responded to his blog saying -


Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party and Spectacle of Dancing Lights – are being released on Monday, November 8. This is in conjunction with the start of those two events. The Epcot Holidays Around the World figure should be released at the start of that holiday celebration later this month.

So I assume the 26th.

[RMThompson]

Steven Miller in regards to the tins:


I can say that at this point we do not have plans to bring back the tins. We are moving toward the display boxes for a variety of reasons. I also know that we continue to look for a variety of ways to package and present Vinylmation. My favorite (that isn’t released yet) is the Sushi set. But maybe that is because I love sushi.

[SherKhan72]

I'm glad to see that they are lots of people who will be missing the tins, I personally will definitely miss the tins. The box is, ehhhhh. I know they won't be going back to the tins, they've wanted to get away from that about a year ago or so. The box looks really cheap.


Translation - boxes are cheaper to make than the tins. I don't believe the line "nobody knew what was in the tins". Ummm, hello? Nobody knows what's in the normal series blind boxes but you feel the need to display a set behind on the case and in a plastic box to show them off.
I'm reminded of Christmas Vacation and the line "All the lousy ways to save a buck!!"

:clap::clap::clap: Well said :clap::clap::clap: I can't believe that's the excuse for the elimination of the tins. And that one line that you qouted, "All the lousy ways to save a buck", come Disney, we all know that the price for this is the same as it was when it was in the tin. I remember when the tins came out, I've heard a couple of people who complained that the price for a tin vinylmation was high because of the tin. :rolleyes: Hmmmm, No Tin in replacement for a cheaper box should equal to cheaper price, right? Ok, I'll stop, this is a no win arguement.
The vinyl does look good.

[disneyobsessed808]

Oooh sushi set. I wanna see that one!

[HitchHikingGhostFangirl]

So how many people commented on that blog post about liking the tins better? :-X

[valhalla66]

I'm glad to see that they are lots of people who will be missing the tins, I personally will definitely miss the tins. The box is, ehhhhh. I know they won't be going back to the tins, they've wanted to get away from that about a year ago or so. The box looks really cheap.

:clap::clap::clap: Well said :clap::clap::clap: I can't believe that's the excuse for the elimination of the tins. And that one line that you qouted, "All the lousy ways to save a buck", come Disney, we all know that the price for this is the same as it was when it was in the tin. I remember when the tins came out, I've heard a couple of people who complained that the price for a tin vinylmation was high because of the tin. :rolleyes: Hmmmm, No Tin in replacement for a cheaper box should equal to cheaper price, right? Ok, I'll stop, this is a no win arguement.
The vinyl does look good.

i guarantee that the box is about the same price as the tin. that's hi gloss 4 color process coated heavy material that they are using for the cardboard box. its also on heavy stock paper. the tins are just 1 sided printed on a roll and then stamped into shape. i work with a lot of packaging, and the cardboard box is a lot harder and more expensive to make than the tin, the tin is the easier way to go on these. they probably would have kept the tin if they could have put a window in it easily. they're smart to make them see through to pick up extra business from non collectors since all of us will find/buy them anyways. i agree with you guys though, i don't love the "stage". its kind of weird and looks cheap.

[snoboardp]

Though i like the tins better, i think from a selling/display standpoint the clear plastic window has more appeal. Looking at a stack of tins vs looking at the actual product itself (i.e. like the NBC series stacked up) is less appealing.

[Scarlet Hunter]

Not shocked about 'moving away from tins' movement. Just waiting for it to happen.

Not to much discussion about the Vinyl. I really like it. Very much like the Candlelight Proccessional. Very cool design. Love the star on top.

[JDub11]

I wish they came in a tin. I am assuming since it's no longer a tin, they won't cost $16.95 then, but then again, Disney can do what they want, so I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed, but from what I read it doesn't sound too promising. =O

Steven said on the VM blog that the Toy Soldier and Spectacle of Lights would still be $16.95, so I'm assuming this will be the same.

http://eventservices.disney.go.com/static/vinylmation/blogoct10.html

[FigNewton]

I can't mince words here. Compared to the tins, I think the new boxes suck. The "stage" feels cheap and generic to me, and would not be visible in my display at all. Also I really have a hard time buying the argument that people couldn't see what was in the tin. Last year at every location I saw the holiday tins there was a display case showing exactly what was inside the tin.

This is very disappointing Vinylmation team! Between the price increases and the chincy packaging on so called special releases my to-buy list is getting shorter all the time. :(.

[Anders Limpar]

I don't really care for this figure. I doesn't seem very "holiday to me". I think better execution could have given it a holiday feel while still obvioulsy being a vinyl for the candellight processional.

[mugirl0307]

OH NO, not another holiday one!! LOL. Now I have to decide if I want this one too...

[mamawantsvinyls]

I can't mince words here. Compared to the tins, I think the new boxes suck. The "stage" feels cheap and generic to me, and would not be visible in my display at all. Also I really have a hard time buying the argument that people couldn't see what was in the tin. Last year at every location I saw the holiday tins there was a display case showing exactly what was inside the tin.

This is very disappointing Vinylmation team! Between the price increases and the chincy packaging on so called special releases my to-buy list is getting shorter all the time. :(.

:agree: My list is getting shorter all the time too.

But be careful about using the phrase "vinylmation team." We don't want to hurt Steven Miller's feelings... :rolleyes:

[SherKhan72]

So how many people commented on that blog post about liking the tins better? :-X

I left a comment just stating that I wish the tin will find it's way back with the vinyls someday.

[nickalew]

what a poor excuse for disney just being plain cheap.

i want tinS!

[peanut266]

I really like the Spectacle of Lights vinylmation, I can't to see it in person and see how it looks! I'm NOT a fan of that packaging though, it just looks cheap. Plus, if the box gets damaged in transit, then the whole display stand effect won't look as nice.

[jstras22]

i think it's a good idea to switch up the packaging. Maybe if they sell good, they'll start decorating the new boxes a little nicer?

[jibbajab12]

One question now pops into mind, will this one show up at both DLR and WDW?

[Mouseman74]

One question now pops into mind, will this one show up at both DLR and WDW?

More then likely. Last year DLR got the Spectacle of Dancing Lights and Holidays Around the World, just not as large a quantity that WDW got so that the West Coast collectors had a chance to get them. And since this year they are releasing the Spectacle of Dancing Lights at DLR I would say both will be released there.


I may have missed it :-X but when is this figure going to be released?

The release date is set for 11/26 which is the first day of Holidays Around the World, also known as "Black Friday". So after getting all your Christmas shopping done in the wee early hours of the morning, don't forget to stop by Epcot and pick up a Vinylmation goodie for yourself!!

[jibbajab12]

More then likely. Last year DLR got the Spectacle of Dancing Lights and Holidays Around the World, just not as large a quantity that WDW got so that the West Coast collectors had a chance to get them. And since this year they are releasing the Spectacle of Dancing Lights at DLR I would say both will be released there.

Thanks. Even though I've already mentioned that I'm not a fan of the packaging, I like the figure and hope to get it. But, it is the least favorite of the three. If DLR doesn't get it, oh well.

[clement]

I personnally like the Vinyl beter than the previous one....however like many of you, I'm not really fond of the box and of the stand.
That is maybe due to the fact that I don't keep boxes unless they were tins... and also the fact that I don't want to display my vinyl in a "regular" way so I'll probably not use the stand anyway.....
On a side note, last year, when I was not "into Vinylmations" ....I was proposed to buy the Halloween Candy Tin Box...and since I had no idea it was a Vinylmation inside, I didn't buy it.....If it had been a clear box, things might have been different and I may have started collecting them earlier....

[andycool]

It's coming out on Black Friday???? This is going to be the worst!

[Phylers]

On a side note, last year, when I was not "into Vinylmations" ....I was proposed to buy the Halloween Candy Tin Box...and since I had no idea it was a Vinylmation inside, I didn't buy it.....If it had been a clear box, things might have been different and I may have started collecting them earlier....

I'm the exact opposite. The Candy Corn tin was my first VM purchase, and I actually bought it for the tin. I was just going to use it as a dish for actual candy corn, but I really liked the figure inside, and it inspired me to buy a VM from Holiday 1. As they say, it was all downhill from there.

I'm not saying one or the other experience is more valid, but I doubt I'd be so into Vinylmation were it not for the tin that got me started. According to Disney's polling, I suppose I'm in the minority, but with any sort of survey, one has to wonder about the specific sample. And anyone who's both done any coursework (or actual work) concerning survey methods and taken a Disney survey will attest to how poorly some of Disney's questions are written and organized.

I imagine some will take issue with that criticism, but it's a valid point, especially since Steven pointed to survey results as part of the decision to do away with tins.

[vandeetz]

I can't believe people can't look up to see the vinyl displayed in an acrylic case to show you what is inside the tin!! It doesn't seem that hard. It was these tins and the park designs that got me into this hobby in the first place. If you're going to get rid of the tin, please don't put in a crappy cardboard stand that will fray over time and pretend that it is better than the tins it is replacing. We aren't stupid we know it's about saving money, what i'm waiting for is to see the price premium they attach to this terrible packaging.

[valhalla66]

I can't believe people can't look up to see the vinyl displayed in an acrylic case to show you what is inside the tin!! It doesn't seem that hard. It was these tins and the park designs that got me into this hobby in the first place. If you're going to get rid of the tin, please don't put in a crappy cardboard stand that will fray over time and pretend that it is better than the tins it is replacing. We aren't stupid we know it's about saving money, what i'm waiting for is to see the price premium they attach to this terrible packaging.

i've been on both sides, front lines and behind the scenes, of the retail industry my entire life, unfortunately people need to be hit over the head with things. if people can't see or touch exactly what it is right away, they will put zero effort into figuring out what it is. the tins are fine for us collectors, but the gen pop need to see it. i hate to say that "people" are not smart enough to look up at the acrylic case, but its the truth.

i have a billion stories i could tell, but the last week i was on main street DLR trading out a 3" and a 16yr oldish girl was in there at the same time rather emphatically loudly stating, "W H A T are those things. those things are stupid. why would anybody do that. they are dumb. i dont get it." while i was standing in front of her obviously trading, obviously talking with the lady behind the counter (that was awesome). the lady even explained it to her very nicely and she didnt get it. there are signs everywhere explaining what it is, an entire wall of them behind her, and they are literally all over the park. it takes 2 seconds to figure out what it is, and she wasn't willing to do that.

a tin people look at and are like, oh tin, whatever. a cute little candy corn mickey mouse people pick up and take to the counter to buy. the american consumer buys on impulse and emotional attachment. that's why every disney store is set up with stuffed animals in the very back of the store with a clear shot right to them, and all the little pvc toys are at kid height and able to be touched. they are marketing and merchandising geniuses. i dont like the change either, but it makes sense whey they are doing it. i had an earlier post regarding the cost of the box vs tin. they are about the same price to produce.

[vandeetz]

I see where you're coming from, just disappointed I guess :lol:

I wouldn't be so mad about it if the boxes looked good, but the one they've shown for the Epcot holiday vinyl is bland and terrible... to me that wouldn't draw the eye of any consumer unless they were looking for it. I'm also ticked about the display stand, the crappy cardboard stand is not going to hold up to anything and will probably be damaged prior to me opening it.

I just wish they would slow down with the changes 1st the prices and now this... i'm getting discouraged that Disney is going to destroy this hobby

[jeffztt]

From the Vinylmation blog:

Finally on November 26, the Epcot® Holidays Around the World 2010 figure designed by Thomas Scott will be released at D-Street in California and the following Epcot® Locations: Gateway Gifts, ImageWorks, Club Cool, MouseGear, Art of Disney, Port of Entry, Disney Traders, World Traveler, and Heritage Manor.

Holidays Around the World 2010

http://eventservices.disney.go.com/static/vinylmation/images/VMBlog_20101108_HATW2010.jpg

[WDWgirl]

I have to say, while I don't like this year's vinyl and much as last year's, I do like that they chose to focus this year's vinyl on the Candlelight Processional. I can't wait to get mine.

[MansionAddict]

The goods news is that the plastic window appears to be made out of a thicker plastic and not a thin sheet of cellophane. With that being said, I still like the tin. I used to work for Fossil and people went crazy over the tins. A tin just makes your item seem more to hold more value and appeal.

[luvthatmouse]

I will miss the tins, but I do want the Holiday's Around The World Vinylmation because DH and I sag in Candlelight for 4 years:)

[KJM72]

I really don't like these new boxes. Well, actually seeing the higher quality, I've warmed up to them (but still dislike them over tins). It's the designs I'm talking about. They are just so bland and don't even look good on the box. ex. Spectacle of Dancing Lights:

http://plixi.com/p/55773234
(picture from MagicCityMayham on twitter)

How much more BLAND can you get with that. It's basically a really boring dark tan box with dots on it that don't really mean anything. So unexciting compared to last years tin:

http://www.vinylnation.net/siteimages/whatstocome6/whatstocome6_36.jpg

Last year's tin well represented what the lights actually are and looked inviting and colorful. This year's box does the opposite. And for $16.95 instead of $12.95? You can keep your lame box.

[runningstitch]

I wish they would release this at D-Street in Orlando, too. I will actually be in town that weekend, but I don't have plans to go to Epcot. Grrrrr. I would love to be there for a release!

[acxus921]

i hope disney only uses these boxes for Holiday purposes only, but when it comes to event themed (D23)please stick to Tins.

[jstras22]

i got my MVMCP and Dancing Lights vinyls in the mail today, and i think the boxes are adorable! They look sooo much better in person than in the pictures, and really good quality too! Before i got them i thought i'd end up throwing them away, but the boxes are definately not garbage-worthy!

[drudawg]

The new boxes are nice, not flimsy, they do take up more room... that being said, I still miss the tins... especially at $17 each.

[peppermint]

I agree. The boxes are better than I thought they would be, but I really miss the tins.

[MansionAddict]

At least the purple box goes well with the overall sky/tree theme.

[RMThompson]

The little stands are pretty neat on the boxes. tins might be better, but these are pretty darn awesome.

[SHAYDEE]

The little stands are pretty neat on the boxes. tins might be better, but these are pretty darn awesome.

I agree with u all the way. I like these new boxes.

[Qsk50]

Now that I have seen them, they are not that bad. I just wish they would have put the price sticker and that other one on the back. If the sticker does peel off clean then you have a scuff mark on the part where the vinyl stands :(

[Soulchild]

Now that I have seen them, they are not that bad. I just wish they would have put the price sticker and that other one on the back. If the sticker does peel off clean then you have a scuff mark on the part where the vinyl stands :(
Yeah, you have to peel off the price tags very carefully. I used a little diluted rubbing alcohol to remove any of the excess glue from the stickers.

[mnkykng77]

I like the idea of the tin but also like being able to see the VM through the clear window. Maybe they could combine the 2 and make a tin that has a clear window on one or two of the sides on a tin; best of both worlds, haha

[andycool]

So who's going to pick up their HATW 2010 on Black Friday?

[Gentleman ArRi]

i like the tin more itll keep water out in case anything ever happened paper boxes will get all blah

[geious]

Tin Vs Box? TIN! TIN! TIN!

I got the 3 new vinyls in Paper Boxes (HATW 2010, MVMCP & SODL) last week and for me personally I want the tins. Tins would last longer, and will still look great even with a little dent. But with paper, once it's wet.... frayed....straight to the garbage bin. Because the box is not completely square, it's also hard too store. The event tins also have great designs inside and out. I really wish they don't phase out the tins.

[RickP83]

I agree....I prefer tins. I got the two holiday ones this past week and don't like the boxes at all. Don't get me wrong, the display option is a cute concept, but it takes up way too much room. Not only that, what the heck do I do with the top of the boxes once I display them? Lol....it's just not very convenient...lol.

Rick

[KJM72]

I agree....I prefer tins. I got the two holiday ones this past week and don't like the boxes at all. Don't get me wrong, the display option is a cute concept, but it takes up way too much room. Not only that, what the heck do I do with the top of the boxes once I display them? Lol....it's just not very convenient...lol.

Rick

Good point. How are you even supposed to store that? It's not like it's normally shaped for easy storage. I don't think this was the best thing to replace tins. Tins with windows would have been so much better. That would've solved the "problem" of buyers not being able to see the vinyl, and we would still have our tins. I still think they're just trying to maximize profit.

[DizVinyl]

Tin Vs Box? TIN! TIN! TIN!

I got the 3 new vinyls in Paper Boxes (HATW 2010, MVMCP & SODL) last week and for me personally I want the tins. Tins would last longer, and will still look great even with a little dent. But with paper, once it's wet.... frayed....straight to the garbage bin. Because the box is not completely square, it's also hard too store. The event tins also have great designs inside and out. I really wish they don't phase out the tins.

I'm so confused... I didn't think that HATW had released yet - thought they came out on 11/26. Did I miss something?

[Mouseman74]

I'm so confused... I didn't think that HATW had released yet - thought they came out on 11/26. Did I miss something?

It has not been released and as you noted, will be released on 11/26 (Black Friday). The discussion is based on the pictures of the vinyl and it's display stage/packaging. Also both the Mickey's Very Merry and Spectacle of Dancing Lights vinyls have been released and they come in the same packaging. It seems people are more inclined to get the vinyl with a tin versus the new cardboard packaging.

[mamawantsvinyls]

I can't wait to see this superior cardboard packaging! I hope Disney has a patent for it!




...j/k

[Story]

I can't wait to see this superior cardboard packaging! I hope Disney has a patent for it!




...j/k

And with the word "red" I reveal your innermost thoughts :lol:

[mamawantsvinyls]

And with the word "red" I reveal your innermost thoughts :lol:

:eek: How dare you!

White font is the most secretist of all! :rofl:

[Story]

:eek: How dare you!

White font is the most secretist of all! :rofl:

Yeah, except when you "reply with quote". Then it's just like regular old font :pout:

I'm pretty sure when I get my toy soldier and spectacle I won't be using the boxes at all. I won't throw them away, but they'll just be like blind boxes that I keep only if I'm going to trade or sell the figure later. I just really hope that Disney is still just experimenting with the packaging. Maybe they'll see how much people don't like it, and will try something else- either lower the price, or improve on the packaging (I'm not saying they have to do tins, tho I'd love them to bring those back, but just make the dollar match what we're getting, is all :))

[mshalloween]

My friend was at EPCOT a few weeks ago and they accidentally had these out in the Coke store. She planned on going back to get me one (don't ask my why she didn't just get it right then, but I digress...) and when she went back, they had pulled all of them because they weren't supposed to be out! I'm looking forward to this vinyl, though, as I really like the design. I know it's not everyone's favorite, but I think it's cute :)

[KJM72]

My friend was at EPCOT a few weeks ago and they accidentally had these out in the Coke store. She planned on going back to get me one (don't ask my why she didn't just get it right then, but I digress...) and when she went back, they had pulled all of them because they weren't supposed to be out! I'm looking forward to this vinyl, though, as I really like the design. I know it's not everyone's favorite, but I think it's cute :)

They have got to pull themselves together on releases. They give us a date for the release, why can't they just stick to it? Park 5 was put out early, too.

[RickP83]

My friend was at EPCOT a few weeks ago and they accidentally had these out in the Coke store. She planned on going back to get me one (don't ask my why she didn't just get it right then, but I digress...) and when she went back, they had pulled all of them because they weren't supposed to be out! I'm looking forward to this vinyl, though, as I really like the design. I know it's not everyone's favorite, but I think it's cute :)

I was wondering why some people already had this vinyl....lol. I'll be there on the 4th so hopefully I'll be able to get it then.

Rick

[Mouseman74]

They have got to pull themselves together on releases. They give us a date for the release, why can't they just stick to it? Park 5 was put out early, too.

The problem lies within warehouse and the locations. The warehouses are automated and what happens is a location that will carry the vinyls down the road get "set up with the sku" so that when they get it they can sell them as it is within their store's sku base. When they do this too early the warehouse then starts sending the location shipments, the Cast at the location don't pay attention or know of a release date and are normally told "anything that comes in can go right to the floor", so they put them out. When you are dealing with locations that are not the big Vinylmation locations - like Club Cool - they have no idea they are doing something wrong. They just need to come up with a better system - maybe put dates on the boxes that the Cast can see that says "do not put out until xx/xx/2010" like they do videos and toys in stores all over.

[mamawantsvinyls]

The problem lies within warehouse and the locations. The warehouses are automated and what happens is a location that will carry the vinyls down the road get "set up with the sku" so that when they get it they can sell them as it is within their store's sku base. When they do this too early the warehouse then starts sending the location shipments, the Cast at the location don't pay attention or know of a release date and are normally told "anything that comes in can go right to the floor", so they put them out. When you are dealing with locations that are not the big Vinylmation locations - like Club Cool - they have no idea they are doing something wrong. They just need to come up with a better system - maybe put dates on the boxes that the Cast can see that says "do not put out until xx/xx/2010" like they do videos and toys in stores all over.

:agree: I've managed two retail stores. Once you get shipments, the goal is to get the merchandise on the floor ASAP. So when there is no communication I can see how these mistakes can be easily made.

[andycool]

Is anyone picking up the Holidays Around The World 2010 today?

[andycool]

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I just picked up mine!

[Kitty_kat]

I just got mine today and a park 5 blind box (I am still going after my stitch). Sadly no Stitch... I got the haunted mansion clock.

[SHAYDEE]

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I just picked up mine!

Is there a lot behind the register at DLR?

[andycool]

Is there a lot behind the register at DLR?

There are a TON left.

[DisneyManiac]

I don't know if this has been posted yet because I didn't want to read through the whole thread, but how much do each of these cost? I'm really interested in getting the Tin Soldier.

[Soulchild]

I don't know if this has been posted yet because I didn't want to read through the whole thread, but how much do each of these cost? I'm really interested in getting the Tin Soldier.
$16.95 at the parks

[WebBetty]

So I'm wondering what's going on with this at WDW?? I drove to Epcot tonight specificallly to pick up Holidays Around the World (just me, no family), and they didn't have them at the three places I stopped: Art of Disney, MouseGear, or Port of Entry. In fact, no one at these stores was even aware of this release (I asked multiple people). I can't seen to find any info on this release at WDW, and the ds.com blog still shows it as being releases 11/26 at WDW. http://statics.plurk.com/a5ae31c4185bc60cd006650dc10f8147.gif

[calidrifter]

I would think that much like dlr at wdw they are initially released at dstreet

[disneylover1955]

Did anyone else notice there is an edition size printed on the bottom? :shrug:

[KJM72]

Did anyone else notice there is an edition size printed on the bottom? :shrug:

http://vinylnation.net/forums/showthread.php?2146-3-quot-Holidays-Around-The-World&p=243696&viewfull=1#post243696

LE of 5000 apparently? That really sounds like a reasonable number for this vinyl.