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disneylover1955
09-30-2010, 09:15 PM
Just saw this great article about recycled Audio Animatronics from rides like World of Motion and Journey Into Imagination:



http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/Universal%20Singapore/Disney%20and%20more/Phantomposter.jpg?t=1285283203

All of you Disneyland Paris fans who ride Phantom Manor again and again might think - thanks to excellent websites - that you know all about this DLP beloved attraction. But, today, you will learn amazing secrets you've never heard before.

In Phantom Manor "Phantom Canyon" is the last scene of the ride, after the doom buggy went through the graveyard and skeletons section. In a way, it's the grand finale of the ride. It's a totally different finale than the one you generally experience in the others Haunted Mansions. In Phantom Manor WDI Imagineers designed a surreal ghost town, and this ghost town have some rather unique Audio-Animatronics inhabitants. It is their story that I will tell you now.

In the early 1990's, while WDI Imagineers were building Phantom Manor's structure the Audio-Animatronics figures were made in WDI workshop, at Walt Disney World. At that time, Jeff Burke, DLP Frontierland's show producer, had to choose the "faces and bodies" of Phantom Canyon's future inhabitants. For the skeletons that guests meet in the previous scene, WDI purchased plastic skeletons from a company that normally supplies these "bony creations" to medical schools and colleges. For the "underworld" of Phantom Manor the skeletons were purchased in bulk and in different dimensions - larger for the men "crypt characters", smaller for the women.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/Universal%20Singapore/Disney%20and%20more/canyon8.jpg?t=1285343906

And the largest skeleton acquired, used for the infamous Phantom character, was 6' 3" tall.
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/Universal%20Singapore/Disney%20and%20more/canyon6.jpg?t=1285343959

But for the "human" characters of Phantom Canyon it was a totally different challenge.
It's not well known but sometime - to avoid the expense of sculpting new heads and bodies for new kind of Audio-Animatronics characters - Imagineers can do a selection from masks and molds designed for AA characters of previous attractions. Then, with the magic of WDI designers and new costumes a whole new cast appear. For instance,some of the ghosts of Disneyland's Haunted Mansion previously showed up in Pirates of the Caribbean. Not only it's easier and less expensive, but the budget savings can be used to enhance lighting, special effects and other production values of the attraction.

Now, let's get back to Jeff Burke, WDW workshop, and the folks of Phantom Canyon. If you did the ride at DLP, you probably remember the bank robber and his donkey. Well, his face and body are from a mask and mold previously used for a character of EPCOT's World of Motion... as well as the donkey!

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/Universal%20Singapore/Disney%20and%20more/canyon3.jpg?t=1285344014

And the face and body of the scared sheriff hiding behind the lampost, is also featured as a skinny pirate in the auction scene of WDW Pirates of the Caribbean.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/Universal%20Singapore/Disney%20and%20more/canyon5.jpg?t=1285344065

Mind you, Jeff's first choice was to used the terrified groundskeeper standing at the cemetary gates in Haunted Mansion's final scene. By the way, from that same scene, a howling dog among the tombstones has been turned into a snarling "hound from hell" lunging toward your doom buggy when you exit the Bride's bedroom.

Other Phantom Canyon inhabitants includes the piano player...

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/Universal%20Singapore/Disney%20and%20more/canyon1.jpg?t=1285344117

...the bartender, the saloon girl...

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/Universal%20Singapore/Disney%20and%20more/canyon2.jpg?t=1285344208

...and the druggist. All of them began their AA "career" in various scenes of the now extinct World of Motion attraction.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/Universal%20Singapore/Disney%20and%20more/canyon7.jpg?t=1285344293

But the biggest surprise probably comes from the Mayor character who welcomes us to Phantom Canyon. He's the one who greets you not only by removing his hat, but his head as well! You're not going to believe who he is really or should i say who "he" was in a previous "life": Believe it or not, but the mayor of Phantom Canyon is DREAMFINDER, the main character from the beloved Journey into Imagination attraction!

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/Universal%20Singapore/Disney%20and%20more/canyon4.jpg?t=1285344352

Quite frankly, I've ride Phantom Manor dozens of time and never noticed it before but indeed Phantom Canyon's mayor is/was the Dreamfinder character of EPCOT's Journey into Imagination! And the voice of this macabre mayor wishing you a "Welcome, foolish mortals..." is none less than the talented Paul Frees, who is the voice of the "Ghost Host" in Disneyland's Haunted Mansion.

So, next time you will ride through Phantom Manor and when your doom buggy will go down to enter Phantom Canyon, don't forget to say a warm "Hello!" to the "Dreamfinder" mayor and all the other characters who are versatile enough to scare you at DLP after they entertained guests in a previous "life" at others Disney theme parks.


http://micechat.com/forums/disneyland-resort-paris/144286-recycled-magic-behind-disneyland-paris-phantom-manor.html

peaches magee
09-30-2010, 09:23 PM
I looooove things like this, thanks for posting. I had no clue there was even a Western theme in there. Wow, I am so clueless on DLP, we need more pics and stuff out of there... my European friends :)

disneylover1955
09-30-2010, 09:24 PM
I looooove things like this, thanks for posting. I had no clue there was even a Western theme in there. Wow, I am so clueless on DLP, we need more pics and stuff out of there... my European friends :)

I know! I totally nerded out when I saw the original dreamfinder and world of motion animatronics! :lol:

peaches magee
09-30-2010, 09:26 PM
Me too, that was the best part... Dreeamfinder floating head! :lol:

Return_of_Phos
09-30-2010, 09:26 PM
So that explains why Dreamfinder is longer in Journey to imagination...he died in Paris..:rofl:........:dash:

disneylover1955
09-30-2010, 09:29 PM
Me too, that was the best part... Dreeamfinder floating head! :lol:

OMG I know! Ughhh now they can bring the original Journey Into Imagination back now that we have found him! :rofl:


So that explains why Dreamfinder is longer in Journey to imagination...he died in Paris..:rofl:........:dash:

Hahahaha he died in Epcot and was laid to rest in Phantom Manor! :rofl:

Return_of_Phos
09-30-2010, 09:30 PM
OMG I know! Ughhh now they can bring the original Journey Into Imagination back now that we have found him! :rofl:



Hahahaha he died in Epcot and was laid to rest in Phantom Manor! :rofl:

:idea: hmmm I wonder if him and Figment had a fight and Figment imagined his head getting cut off :rofl:

disneylover1955
09-30-2010, 09:32 PM
:idea: hmmm I wonder if him and Figment had a fight and Figment imagined his head getting cut off :rofl:

I think so! Maybe he will be resurrected at Epcot! :pray:

Return_of_Phos
10-01-2010, 12:01 AM
I think so! Maybe he will be resurrected at Epcot! :pray:

unfortunately thats not gonna happen b/c I just heard a rumor that Disney is planing on redesigning the Journey to Imagination ride but Dreamfinder will not be in the ride and in fact neither is Figment, The new star of the Journey to Imagination is gonna be..................Duffy :rofl:

HitchHikingGhostFangirl
10-01-2010, 12:35 AM
Hahahaha he died in Epcot and was laid to rest in Phantom Manor! :rofl:

Not a bad break for him then! :lol:

I :love: Phantom Manor since it reminds me of the house from Psycho.

I'll eventually get out to DLPR.

That's very cool to know. I'll have to remember that :) -stores it into the random disney fact area of my brain-

ars2003
10-01-2010, 01:01 AM
I was just in Florida and did the ride. Has that always been the same with the scientist and figment? Where was the dreamfinder?

Return_of_Phos
10-01-2010, 01:03 AM
I was just in Florida and did the ride. Has that always been the same with the scientist and figment? Where was the dreamfinder?

He was beheaded by Figment :rofl:

Story
10-01-2010, 01:38 AM
unfortunately thats not gonna happen b/c I just heard a rumor that Disney is planing on redesigning the Journey to Imagination ride but Dreamfinder will not be in the ride and in fact neither is Figment, The new star of the Journey to Imagination is gonna be..................Duffy :rofl:

I knew it! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/ohmy.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


This was really interesting to me because I had no idea the Haunted Mansion was so different in Disneyland Paris. I just looked up the whole story, and I thought it was really interesting the way it differs from the other Haunted Mansions.

I agree with you, peaches magee- I know way too little about DLRP. I need to do some more disney research :lol:

Thanks for sharing this article! :)

Phylers
10-01-2010, 01:50 AM
That's cool that they recycle the characters, but it's also incredibly creepy. I always knew something was up with the Dreamfinder. :look:


unfortunately thats not gonna happen b/c I just heard a rumor that Disney is planing on redesigning the Journey to Imagination ride but Dreamfinder will not be in the ride and in fact neither is Figment, The new star of the Journey to Imagination is gonna be..................Duffy :rofl:

They could do both; I mean, Duffy only needs one room: "welcome to Imagine Duffy..." "I imagine he's a teddy bear!" Ride over. Please exit through the gift shop, then ride the much longer Journey next door with Figment. ;-)

Demeter
10-01-2010, 09:28 AM
Neat article. Thanks for sharing. I knew Disney reused some characters. For instance, in Spaceship Earth at Epcot the pharaoh is actually Abe Lincoln and the guy fanning him is Teddy Roosevelt. Seeing Dreamfinder in Phantom Manor is neat and sad at the same time. I loved seeing the pictures of the characters from World of Motion too.

minniemose35
10-01-2010, 09:31 AM
unfortunately thats not gonna happen b/c I just heard a rumor that Disney is planing on redesigning the Journey to Imagination ride but Dreamfinder will not be in the ride and in fact neither is Figment, The new star of the Journey to Imagination is gonna be..................Duffy :rofl:

Your so funny RoP:rofl:. I for one would strike that attraction from my list of places to visit everytime.:nono: If I want to see a stupid teddy bear, I'll look for one in my daughter's old room. Bring back dreamfinder already!!!:doh:

disneylover1955
10-01-2010, 12:31 PM
unfortunately thats not gonna happen b/c I just heard a rumor that Disney is planing on redesigning the Journey to Imagination ride but Dreamfinder will not be in the ride and in fact neither is Figment, The new star of the Journey to Imagination is gonna be..................Duffy :rofl:

Oh god nooooooo! Not Duffy! :rofl: :cry:

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Neat article. Thanks for sharing. I knew Disney reused some characters. For instance, in Spaceship Earth at Epcot the pharaoh is actually Abe Lincoln and the guy fanning him is Teddy Roosevelt. Seeing Dreamfinder in Phantom Manor is neat and sad at the same time. I loved seeing the pictures of the characters from World of Motion too.

Hahaha thats so cool! Guess we need to write a book on all the reused AA's in Disney Parks! :rofl: